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I thought I should comment on our recent trip to the outer Hebrides, possibly anyone considering a visit there may find my comments useful.

We did this trip south to north starting on Barra and Vatersay then worked our way all the way north to the But of Lewis. To keep ferry costs down next time we will travel through Skye and arrive in Lochmaddy and return to Uig in Skye from Tarbet. Due to our van just being over 6m the ferry costs were £560, double the cost of vans 6m and under.

One thing you have to prepare for is the weather there. It’s colder than the mainland, and most days it’s windy particularly at the coast. And I am not talking about light breeze, I mean really windy. Possibly next time we will start our trip early May and return early June. But don’t let the weather put you off the places we seen (and you can’t do it all even in three weeks) were stunning. The scenery particularly on Harris and Lewis was beautiful, and the beeches with their white sand and blue waters were a joy to behold. The beeches go literally for miles, and it’s entirely possible you will be alone.

The roads are excellent, hardly a pot hole anywhere, even the single track roads had lots of passing places are were generally good to drive on. The locals were very appreciative when you pulled in to let them by, most putting on their hazards to say thanks. We found the locals very welcoming, but there are a small minority who clearly don’t like us, particularly in Harris and Lewis, but they were as I say a tiny minority.

Most of the shops are Coops and well stocked, and we found they were most competitive of all the shops on the islands. There are some filling stations but operating their unmanned pumps could be challenging. At Leverborough on Harris, I had to ask a local how to operate their set up, he kindly showed me exactly what was required. Fuel prices were only slightly more expensive than the mainland.

Book your ferries well in advance, we saw a Motorhome trying to go from Eriskay to South Uist being told there was no spaces for two days.

If you stay in Eriskay try out the AM Politician for a meal, the food is great, and good value, but book in advance. And if you are a customer you can park up in their carpark for the night, first come first served.

Wild camping is no problem, but most park ups ask for donations. Most were £5 or £10 but one asked for £15 we only left £10. The campsites we used were all excellent and reasonable. There are plenty to choose from apart from South Uist which only has one in Kilbride to the south of the island. The RSPB have set up some nice park ups and ask for a £5 donation.

On Harris and Lewis I felt they were out to take advantage, asking for donations in public carparks, or even lay byes by the road. We used the Aire at Urgha which cost £15 inc EHU. I felt that was ok, until next morning when I went to empty my cassette only to find I had to pay an additional £3. I left it open for others to use for free.

Would I recommend the outer Hebrides, definitely. The people mostly extremely helpful, kind, and pleasant. They enjoy talking to you, and seem pleased that you visited their islands. I can sum
this trip when after almost three weeks we arrived in Stornaway. If felt weird navigating roundabouts and traffic lights. The high street although small by our standards seemed big in comparison to where we had been. The people in Stornaway were not unfriendly, but not as friendly as those living in rural parts of the islands. Stornaway had two large supermarkets and Tesco and a large Coop. One word of warning the islanders are more religious than we are on the mainland, and on Sundays the shops are mostly closed.

I hope this has been useful, feel free to add to this, or ask any questions.

I also met Davep10000 and his wife when we were in Vatersay, thanks for the tips Dave, nice meeting you and your wife.
 
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Wow, ferry cost are mad expensive, I take it the RET no longer applies?

Big 10/4 on the AM Politician, I ordered my predictable Fish and Chips, Bea went for the Mac and Cheese, when she saw the whale over hanging each side of my plate, she realised her mistake with her order 😂

The Hebs are stunning, with the added bonus of multiple route options to access the Islands on the Edge.
 
Wow, ferry cost are mad expensive, I take it the RET no longer applies?

Big 10/4 on the AM Politician, I ordered my predictable Fish and Chips, Bea went for the Mac and Cheese, when she saw the whale over hanging each side of my plate, she realised her mistake with her order 😂

The Hebs are stunning, with the added bonus of multiple route options to access the Islands on the Edge.
RET only applies to vehicles up to 6m in length Terry, our is 6.3m :(
But that’s for four journeys, the most expensive was Oban to Barra at £236.
 
Our Dethleffs at the time of our trip, was over six metre, which I’m sure was 2013, ret must have just been introduced, a long time ago, Hebrides fog has set in, we arranged the Hop Scotch booking system, and I just cannot recall the ferry costs.

That said though, for anyone wishing to tour these magnificent islands, there is a cost, unfortunately .
 
Was always use Uig both ways. Shorter sailing as I don’t like boats.
Great right up Bill. 🙏🙏
Our VW wasn’t expensive for ferry costs or I would have remembered. We done it in just turn up and sail days. No booking required.
 
Your trip sounds good.
We were there for three weeks before Easter wonderful weather.
Our motorhome is 6 metres, so we go at the cheaper rate.We used 6 ferries in total at a cost of £240.
We were able to wild camp.There are some toilet emptying points at the ferry terminals.
Definitely worth a visit.
 
Our Dethleffs at the time of our trip, was over six metre, which I’m sure was 2013, ret must have just been introduced, a long time ago, Hebrides fog has set in, we arranged the Hop Scotch booking system, and I just cannot recall the ferry costs.

That said though, for anyone wishing to tour these magnificent islands, there is a cost, unfortunately .
CalMac used to use incremental increases for vans 6.1-6.5, 6.6-7, 7.1-7.5 and so on with only a small rise with each increment. But three years ago they took another poke at us by rigidly applying the RTE with this grossly unfair fare change. If my van was 6m I could have sailed to Barra for £88 that extra one third of a metre meant I had to pay £236. Disgraceful. :mad:
I knew breeching the 6m rule would cost us, but I never realised just how much. But I have no regrets about the van, it’s perfect for us. But I have no time for Calmac. I was told someone was ruled over 6m owing to a tow bar being fitted. Be careful if you have a bike rack on a 6m van, it could will you, they are looking out for this.
Also without booking cars will be given preference, even if you arrived before them.
And they say they are not anti Motorhome, they are.
 
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Pretty sure the RET applied to us on the ferry to Arran Bill and our van is 8.5m. I can't remember how much it was now but about £100 return I think.

Good to hear the roads are good over there as they are shocking still on Arran. Some improvement in places but generally dreadful.
 
Pretty sure the RET applied to us on the ferry to Arran Bill and our van is 8.5m. I can't remember how much it was now but about £100 return I think.

Good to hear the roads are good over there as they are shocking still on Arran. Some improvement in places but generally dreadful.
Before with our 6m van we used to go to Arran for £55 return Barry, now its £118.
RTE did not apply to your van Barry. If it had the current price is only £58 for a 6m van and two adult passengers return.
RTE does not apply to vehicles over 6m or even for commercial vehicles over 6m
The fact that it does not apply to all commercial vehicles astounds me.
This increases costs in the shops, and if workmen are travelling to the islands to carry out work it can increase the costs for the islanders.


RET for passengers, cars (including small commercial vehicles up to 6 metres in length) and coaches was rolled out across the Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Services network as a series of pilots beginning in 2008 and concluding in 2015, fulfilling a key commitment of the Ferries Plan.

 
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Before with our 6m van we used to go to Arran for £55 return Barry, now its £118.
RTE did not apply to your van Barry. If it had the current price is only £58 for a 6m van and two adult passengers return.
RTE does not apply to vehicles over 6m or even for commercial vehicles over 6m
The fact that it does not apply to all commercial vehicles astounds me.
This increases costs in the shops, and if workmen are travelling to the islands to carry out work it increases the costs for the islanders.


RET for passengers, cars (including small commercial vehicles up to 6 metres in length) and coaches was rolled out across the Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Services network as a series of pilots beginning in 2008 and concluding in 2015, fulfilling a key commitment of the Ferries Plan.


I'm sure years ago though as in at least 10 it used to cost us about £160 return. When the RTE came in it came down a chunk. Maybe they reduced the standard pricing as well?
 
I'm sure years ago though as in at least 10 it used to cost us about £160 return. When the RTE came in it came down a chunk. Maybe they reduced the standard pricing as well?
In 2004 I paid £135 for a car return over to Arran.
RTE was introduced to encourage people to visit, live and work from the Islands.
Up until 2023 CalMac used to graduate costs for vehicles over 6M.
With that scheme I would have paid £55 plus an additional £10 return for my current van return to Arran.
But now they only have two prices below 6M and above. And if you're an inch over they will apply the higher charge.
With your larger van you would not have noticed much of an increase, with 8.5M vans being a lot more expensive even then.
But if like us you go from a 6M van to a 6.3M van you get absolutely slaughtered by them.
As I said my last van single to Barra £88 this 6.3M van £236.
With this scheme although your van is much larger than mine we pay the same as you.
 
Just compared a one way ticket to Hebrides with Germany-Sweden, a sailing we did last year, 7m with bikes on the back, 1st June,
Oban-Bara, 5hr £260.
Rostock-Talenburg, 6hrs £153.
:mad:
 
But if like us you go from a 6M van to a 6.3M van you get absolutely slaughtered by them.
As I said my last van single to Barra £88 this 6.3M van £236.
With this scheme although your van is much larger than mine we pay the same as you.

I'm fine with that. :ROFLMAO:
 
RET only applies to vehicles up to 6m in length Terry, our is 6.3m :(
But that’s for four journeys, the most expensive was Oban to Barra at £236.
Well, Holyrood need to get the money back due to their incompetence 2 x Ferry overspend. 🤬
 
I thought I should comment on our recent trip to the outer Hebrides, possibly anyone considering a visit there may find my comments useful.

We did this trip south to north starting on Barra and Vatersay then worked our way all the way north to the But of Lewis. To keep ferry costs down next time we will travel through Skye and arrive in Lochmaddy and return to Uig in Skye from Tarbet. Due to our van just being over 6m the ferry costs were £560, double the cost of vans 6m and under.

One thing you have to prepare for is the weather there. It’s colder than the mainland, and most days it’s windy particularly at the coast. And I am not talking about light breeze, I mean really windy. Possibly next time we will start our trip early May and return early June. But don’t let the weather put you off the places we seen (and you can’t do it all even in three weeks) were stunning. The scenery particularly on Harris and Lewis was beautiful, and the beeches with their white sand and blue waters were a joy to behold. The beeches go literally for miles, and it’s entirely possible you will be alone.

The roads are excellent, hardly a pot hole anywhere, even the single track roads had lots of passing places are were generally good to drive on. The locals were very appreciative when you pulled in to let them by, most putting on their hazards to say thanks. We found the locals very welcoming, but there are a small minority who clearly don’t like us, particularly in Harris and Lewis, but they were as I say a tiny minority.

Most of the shops are Coops and well stocked, and we found they were most competitive of all the shops on the islands. There are some filling stations but operating their unmanned pumps could be challenging. At Leverborough on Harris, I had to ask a local how to operate their set up, he kindly showed me exactly what was required. Fuel prices were only slightly more expensive than the mainland.

Book your ferries well in advance, we saw a Motorhome trying to go from Eriskay to South Uist being told there was no spaces for two days.

If you stay in Eriskay try out the AM Politician for a meal, the food is great, and good value, but book in advance. And if you are a customer you can park up in their carpark for the night, first come first served.

Wild camping is no problem, but most park ups ask for donations. Most were £5 or £10 but one asked for £15 we only left £10. The campsites we used were all excellent and reasonable. There are plenty to choose from apart from South Uist which only has one in Kilbride to the south of the island. The RSPB have set up some nice park ups and ask for a £5 donation.

On Harris and Lewis I felt they were out to take advantage, asking for donations in public carparks, or even lay byes by the road. We used the Aire at Urgha which cost £15 inc EHU. I felt that was ok, until next morning when I went to empty my cassette only to find I had to pay an additional £3. I left it open for others to use for free.

Would I recommend the outer Hebrides, definitely. The people mostly extremely helpful, kind, and pleasant. They enjoy talking to you, and seem pleased that you visited their islands. I can sum
this trip when after almost three weeks we arrived in Stornaway. If felt weird navigating roundabouts and traffic lights. The high street although small by our standards seemed big in comparison to where we had been. The people in Stornaway were not unfriendly, but not as friendly as those living in rural parts of the islands. Stornaway had two large supermarkets and Tesco and a large Coop. One word of warning the islanders are more religious than we are on the mainland, and on Sundays the shops are mostly closed.

I hope this has been useful, feel free to add to this, or ask any questions.

I also met Davep10000 and his wife when we were in Vatersay, thanks for the tips Dave, nice meeting you and your wife.
Mainly a positive post Bill!

Keep it up lad, you'll be as happy as me in no time at all.

🤣🤣🤣
 
On Harris and Lewis I felt they were out to take advantage, asking for donations in public carparks, or even lay byes by the road.
Avoid Huisinis car park on Harris at all costs. £20 for an overnight and no restrictions on numbers meaning vans are parked dangerously close to each other. You pay extra for everything: showers, chemical waste, water. Road in is VERY narrow. We turned around and drove 14 miles all the way back to the main road!
 
Avoid Huisinis car park on Harris at all costs. £20 for an overnight and no restrictions on numbers meaning vans are parked dangerously close to each other. You pay extra for everything: showers, chemical waste, water. Road in is VERY narrow. We turned around and drove 14 miles all the way back to the main road!
I agree, it used to be a lovely location. Now it's quite cramped.
 
Proper driving road. There’s an aire thing between the castle and the beach at Huisinis.
 
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