Bin Liner Shortage?

Bigpeetee

Guest
On 1st October, in Wales, any disposable bag ie supermarket carrier, shop carrier etc will incur a minimum of a 5p charge.

Many of us probably recycle these in our MH's a rubbish bins, so if you live in Wales or plan to visit, stock up whilst you can!

I realise that many European countries are already charging for bags, so we're just catching up, but I find them so useful as rubbish bags, sorting out washing etc. I object to Paying for bags to dispose of them.

I realise that I'm tight fisted before anyone mentions the fact.

The Supermarket Kwik Save used to have a slogan "There's no such thing as a FREE carrier bag", but I'll bet that the charge won't bring any prices down.
 
And so they should charge - the shops have to buy them. I have seen people at the check-outs place only one item per bag and as far as I am concerned the sooner they charge for bags nation wide the better.
We only ever use hessian bags when shopping and they are not expensive to buy, and when touring we use pillow-cases for dirty cloths and as for rubbish we dump every day.

That's my penny-worth for to-day. :yeahthat:
 
We too find carrier bags useful as rubbish bins, in fact we have an attachment on our van door that is designed to hold open the neck of the carrier with a lid to cover the top.

However, the other side of it is that I remember in the sixties and seventies it was normal to take a bag if you were going shopping, plastic carrier bags did not exist then, you only used to get a paper bag for loose items like fruit and veg etc. Also I don't seem to remember seeing the amount of plastic packaging then that we have now.

All this big thing about saving the environment and recycling is what was normal for us to do in the sixties and seventies. Who remembers newspapers used for chip wrappers, loo paper and firelighters, and taking your pop bottles back to the shop to get the deposit back on them??
 
6D on Corona


For those who don't know what 6d is a small coin same size approx 5 p piece,same colour. Worth 6 pennies ,6d, sixpence,tanner.
 
Last edited:
oldish hippy said:
6D on Corona


For those who don't know what 6d is a small coin same size approx 5 p piece,same colour. Worth 6 pennies ,6d, sixpence,tanner.
Click to expand...

Looking at it that way, would you have paid a shilling for a carrier bag in those days??
 
Last time I was in Ireland, a bag would cost 10% of the price of your shopping. Not many folks taking up that offer...
 
Its all this enviroparanoia. We stopped deposits on bottles and introduced plastic and cans,chips in newspaper replaced by polystyrene boxes and plastic bags,
taking a bag to the veg shop replaced with prepacked veg. We used to get carrier bags from the Coop and they were brown paper with string handles-fully biodegradable,we put the veg peelings in them for the pigswill man.
 
I agree with having to pay for bags and bringing your own, but the downside is that it takes the checkout staff twice as long to process your purchase because of the non-standard bring-your-own bags.

Solution would be to just return all items to the trolley after checkout and anyone who wants to, has to pack their own bags away from the checkout.
 
Randonneur said:
Looking at it that way, would you have paid a shilling for a carrier bag in those days??
Click to expand...

Looking at it in reverse would you be satisfied to-day with wages of £2.50 per week which is what I was earning in the early 1970s and paying 5D per paper bag in the little shops - I think they call it inflation, so 5p in not bad for a plastic bag since wages have more than doubled. :hammer: :blah:

:cheers:

John
 
what happens to the 5p that they are going to charge,does go into green projects or line mr tescos etc pockets.if going into green projects then even more paper work and another stealth tax.W ould it pay for it self in the cost of recovering the unpaid 5p from dishonest retailers or those who say we only sold five instead of the ten that they did sell, who can prove what they sell.
 
All we need to do now is to get the packaging on our purchases reduced....they take up too much room in the bags that I now have to pay for.


Polly
 
Looking at it in reverse would you be satisfied to-day with wages of £2.50 per week which is what I was earning in the early 1970s
Click to expand...

That must have been a paper round, I was earning £18 a week in 1974 and that was in a fairly low paid job. As for Grangetown tumbleweed, they should do away with them.
 
13 billion plastic bags are used in the UK every year, this uses around 1 million barrels of oil. 1 in 200 bags are recycled. Use canvas bags. It's not rocket science.
 
We always take are own bags to the supermarket, apart from the "green" issues they are stronger and easier to carry.
A look along the rows of checkouts shows many others doing just the same without heavy handed rules as Wales proposes.
Tony;
Some years ago (around 30 I think) there was a supermarket chain in the Bradford area that did just as you suggest. i.e. shopping back in the trolley then pack your own bags at a bench on the way out. I don't think it was very successful though. It just moved the queue.
 
groyne said:
That must have been a paper round, I was earning £18 a week in 1974 and that was in a fairly low paid job. As for Grangetown tumbleweed, they should do away with them.
Click to expand...

It was the mid 60s and I was an apprentice electrician. I had a paper round in the late 50s at 9d to 1/3d per week and boy-o-boy could I buy a lot of sweets with that.
 
Kwik Save always had a bag packing area away from the tills, and Aldi is the same -
but in our Aldi the shelf is right on top of the heaters and all your frozen stuff thaws out as you pack it.

I take my own bags when I do the grocery shopping, although sometimes I need one
or two more, but many other shops insist on putting things in carrier bags even when I say I don't want one.

They all get re-used as bin liners - incidentally I priced up some bin liners with handles in Morrisons, they work out about 4p each - bargain then if carrier bags are going to be 5p.

At the end of the day there will still be the same number of bags in my wheelie bin though - so what will have been achieved?
 
Guernsey Donkey said:
And so they should charge - the shops have to buy them. I have seen people at the check-outs place only one item per bag and as far as I am concerned the sooner they charge for bags nation wide the better.
We only ever use hessian bags when shopping and they are not expensive to buy, and when touring we use pillow-cases for dirty cloths and as for rubbish we dump every day.

That's my penny-worth for to-day. :yeahthat:
Click to expand...

Well we are of those who put few items in each bag and I often stuff a few extra bags in the bag I am filling, we like to take as many bags away with us on our travels as we can as you don't get them in most places on the Continent, so we always have a good supply, we use them for rubbish bags and all sorts of other uses,even at home all our household rubbish goes in them before it gets in our Wheely Bin. why are you so keen for them to be charged for I wonder!
 
Originally Posted by Guernsey Donkey
And so they should charge - the shops have to buy them. I have seen people at the check-outs place only one item per bag and as far as I am concerned the sooner they charge for bags nation wide the better.
We only ever use hessian bags when shopping and they are not expensive to buy, and when touring we use pillow-cases for dirty cloths and as for rubbish we dump every day.

That's my penny-worth for to-day.

vindiboy said:
Well we are of those who put few items in each bag and I often stuff a few extra bags in the bag I am filling, we like to take as many bags away with us on our travels as we can as you don't get them in most places on the Continent, so we always have a good supply, we use them for rubbish bags and all sorts of other uses,even at home all our household rubbish goes in them before it gets in our Wheely Bin. why are you so keen for them to be charged for I wonder!


We all help ourselves to things that are FREE but if we had to pay for them we might think twice about helping ourselves.

I leave you with just one word - GREEN
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
Why pack away from the till?

The Aldi Black reusable bags are great, you can put them in the bottom of the empty trolly, doesn't matter which store and load straight into them, saves doing the job twice.

They're very strong and have many other uses, loading the MH from home cupboards etc.

They are quite heavy when full though, so be careful!!

I'm all in favour of reducing the number of carriers in use, In Jordan a couple of years a go, there were masses of carriers blowing across the desert.

But I still need them to allow me to recycle them once more as a bin liner that attaches to the plastic frame at the side of my kitchen area.

So if I go to a supermarket that still gives them away, I collect as many as poss for when the whole of the UK charge for a bag.

If I had to change, I'd have to bin a perfectly good frame for carrier bags. As it's HARD plastic it goes into the rubbish bin for landfill.

I'd then have to buy another contraption for rubbish purposes, probably made in China and freighted across here, then buy designer liners at cost so I can throw it away!!

Judging by the lack of response from my question regarding recycling in the MH, I guess that most people don't recycle the MH waste, it's only for a few days etc.??
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who viewed this discussion (Total:0)

Back
Top