Beware motorhome robberies in the south of France!

sirianjourney

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Hello there,
I was recently robbed in my motorhome when driving from Italy to Portugal. I pulled over in one of the aires along the way near Montpelier, France - and parked between to big lorries. Knackered from a long day of driving, I flaked it from 11 pm to 3am. I woke up feeling fairly refreshed and made a cup of tea thinking that I might keep on driving when I noticed that the front cab curtain was pulled back - its always closed at night.

Then I noticed that my shoulder bag was not on the seat where I left it. I checked the wardrobe where my camera bag was - gone! I had just got back from overseas, and still had my passports and other ID in the camera bag. Both were not stashed in their usual hiding spots. My shorts on the seat had my wallet missing with all credit cards and cash. I noticed that the front passenger door was not quite closed. I went outside and notice that something in the front had fallen out onto the car park. The lock had some slight indentations around it - it had been forced but still worked.

Lucky my money belt in some jeans in the wardrobe was still intact with plenty of cash $US - not the easiest to change in Europe but it saved me. Since then and the nightmare of re-applying of ID's and original birth certificates, I have done some research and it appears to have happened to plenty of other travelers as various Daily Mail articles tell.

I am a light sleeper like some of these people in the articles said, and I am incredulous that I never woke up while the thief was in my motorhome. Some of these people claim to have been gassed (through the vents), they woke up with sore throats and feeling groggy. That was not my experience. However, I have found out there is some party drug product that they spray which is odorless and has no after effects, that I might have fallen prey to.

Either way, be cautious this summer holidaying as it seems that thieves are becoming more brazen or desperate, and they are very good at what they do. Altogether, I have lost about US$10,000 in film gear and other lost items, including the cost of replacing everything. You do not expect this in a motorhome, so make sure you have a gas detector and alarms. My old 1995 Fiat is pretty basic, so now I tie up the two front doors with rubber straps at night so that it is impossible to open the doors even if they force the lock.

I also think that I might have been targeted or followed - perhaps as a single person driving. The thieves must know that sooner or later, drivers will stop and their lights will go out and they will be sound asleep within an hour or so. The French police are not very sympathetic as it happens alot in France.
 
Are you insured? We never leave stuff on show. It always gets put in the safe. Even when driving we only have a bit of cash and 1 credit card out for fuel or tolls.
Motorway Aires are also known to be theft hot spots, always use the Aires in towns and villages.
You can get a little safe on eBay, the key operated ones are more secure.
 
Was this a Motorway Aire? Parked in the shade of lorries at night? Shoulder bag on front seat? No extra security? Single person? I am sorry to sound unsympathetic but you are lucky not to have woken up as the result may have been a lot worse. :(

Richard
 
Oh goody, let's have a party drug spray thread
 
Sorry to hear about your problems in Europe. By publicising your robbery, hopefully it might prevent others from falling into the same trap.

One lesson that might come out of this for you is the need to plan your travelling schedule to give you a better choice of a more suitable overnight stop.
 
Yes, I can see why the police were not sympathetic. You were doing all the wrong things.

Had you not been warned never to sleep (or even leave the motorhome unoccupied) at a motorway aire de service? Had you not been warned not to park between trucks where you were out of sight? Had you not been warned never to leave your bag on or behind the seats? These are not specific to the south of France, or even to France. They also apply to the UK and everywhere else.

I'n not asking these things to have a go at you. I honestly want to know how you had not been made aware that these were not safe things to do. How can we get the message out to people so that this doesn't happen to other people?

Lots [not all] of motorway aires are perfectly safe
 
Was this a Motorway Aire? Parked in the shade of lorries at night? Shoulder bag on front seat? No extra security? Single person? I am sorry to sound unsympathetic but you are lucky not to have woken up as the result may have been a lot worse. :(

Richard

Yes a motorway Aire. Very well lit area between lorries just opposite the public conveniences. Shoulder bag was in the back - nothing on the front seat, I always take those obvious precautions. Yes they could have been armed and god knows what might have happened if I had awoken so counting my blessings.
 
Are you insured? We never leave stuff on show. It always gets put in the safe. Even when driving we only have a bit of cash and 1 credit card out for fuel or tolls.
Motorway Aires are also known to be theft hot spots, always use the Aires in towns and villages.
You can get a little safe on eBay, the key operated ones are more secure.

Not insured, usual precautions I take (but not on that night due to tiredness) I regarded as good enough insurance. There was NOTHING on show in the front, everything was in the back.
 
Forget about gassing, party sprays etc, they are just urban myths. If you are in a deep sleep and have attracted professional thieves, who are masters of their profession, then you can so easily be robbed without you realising it, till you wake up.

Good move on the door restrainer, think about alarms on the windows also. Battery operated window door house alarm set garage motorhome burglar WIRELESS | eBay

Thanks for the link. Yes these guys must be good. I had the impression that there also might be some well trained children who work with adults. Small, easy to get around, don't rock the van with their weight....just a theory.
 
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As I said in another response, I was in a very well lit area right opposite public amenities between the trucks. I usually put all the cameras under the seat in the leisure battery compartment. Funny thing, I had a brand new galaxy note phone sitting on the table in plain sight getting recharged and they did not touch it. I have thought in the past about the strong box for cameras, like a military ammo box bolted to the floor under the seat with a padlock on it. The steel bars lid is an excellent suggestion!
 
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Yes, I can see why the police were not sympathetic. You were doing all the wrong things.

Had you not been warned never to sleep (or even leave the motorhome unoccupied) at a motorway aire de service? Had you not been warned not to park between trucks where you were out of sight? Had you not been warned never to leave your bag on or behind the seats? These are not specific to the south of France, or even to France. They also apply to the UK and everywhere else.

I'n not asking these things to have a go at you. I honestly want to know how you had not been made aware that these were not safe things to do. How can we get the message out to people so that this doesn't happen to other people?

Aire de Service places are RECOMMENDED in many books and forums and I saw plenty of other campervans in these places. Parking between the trucks, despite it being well lit in front was probably not a good idea! Well as for the bags, you do not expect someone to brazenly break in while you are asleep! Usually I take those precautions but on this one night I let my guard down. So I think you have the wrong impression of me a bit green at this. I have travelled all over UK and Australia on and off for twenty years in a variety of motorhomes, so its not as if I do not know these precautions of which you speak.
 
Sorry to hear about your problems in Europe. By publicising your robbery, hopefully it might prevent others from falling into the same trap.

One lesson that might come out of this for you is the need to plan your travelling schedule to give you a better choice of a more suitable overnight stop.

That is the only reason I write this, to warn others, I don't want any sympathy, LOL! Yes planning stops well ahead is always the ideal way to do it.
 
Are you insured? We never leave stuff on show. It always gets put in the safe. Even when driving we only have a bit of cash and 1 credit card out for fuel or tolls.
Motorway Aires are also known to be theft hot spots, always use the Aires in towns and villages.
You can get a little safe on eBay, the key operated ones are more secure.

No not insured - nothing was on show in the front but was in the back - but only if you were inside! I thought that some basic precautions that I USUALLY take (but not that night) was enough. Yes you can get those little safe boxes in a good hardware store too.
 
A few cheap tricks have (certainly not impervious to criminals, just an extra layer of protection).

Cheap Chinese 12v alarm that comes with multiple sensors and a gem sender, so if a door or window opens your phone goes off (whether your with the van or not). Works really well.

Have a decoy wallet with a few old cards and a maybe 50euros in, so it looks legitimate to nick. Have an old knackered (but OK looking) digital camera. Both on the worktop, may encourage them to look a little less hard for more.

Split all cash and stash in several places. If travelling for a while some will be behind panels that need unscrewing. Some in a bag in the bottom of the toolbox etc.

Am contemplating getting a safe and some heavy rattly things and not installing it very well (maybe to a dummy floor panel), so it's easily nicked.
 
A few cheap tricks have (certainly not impervious to criminals, just an extra layer of protection).

Cheap Chinese 12v alarm that comes with multiple sensors and a gem sender, so if a door or window opens your phone goes off (whether your with the van or not). Works really well.

Have a decoy wallet with a few old cards and a maybe 50euros in, so it looks legitimate to nick. Have an old knackered (but OK looking) digital camera. Both on the worktop, may encourage them to look a little less hard for more.

Split all cash and stash in several places. If travelling for a while some will be behind panels that need unscrewing. Some in a bag in the bottom of the toolbox etc.

Am contemplating getting a safe and some heavy rattly things and not installing it very well (maybe to a dummy floor panel), so it's easily nicked.

Been looking on Amazon for this 12 volt alarm but not much luck. I like the idea of sending to my mobile phone. If you know of any links, please post.
 
A few cheap tricks have (certainly not impervious to criminals, just an extra layer of protection).

Cheap Chinese 12v alarm that comes with multiple sensors and a gem sender, so if a door or window opens your phone goes off (whether your with the van or not). Works really well.

Have a decoy wallet with a few old cards and a maybe 50euros in, so it looks legitimate to nick. Have an old knackered (but OK looking) digital camera. Both on the worktop, may encourage them to look a little less hard for more.

Split all cash and stash in several places. If travelling for a while some will be behind panels that need unscrewing. Some in a bag in the bottom of the toolbox etc.

Am contemplating getting a safe and some heavy rattly things and not installing it very well (maybe to a dummy floor panel), so it's easily nicked.

Where you heading , Beirut ?
 
As a lorry driver I've had my curtains slashed by people looking for something to steal, although I have never lost anything, but have noticed that the cut has always been at truck cab window height. I really do think that one can take too many precautions, valuables underneath you is natural, but carrying a suitcase full of junk to leave around is a bit OTT and would probably attract the odd chancer. Some previous owner of my van has fitted rings to the front doors, and left a chain behind the seat to chain them together. Just what you want if something goes alight, and besides vans have plastic windows.
 
Hi

Sorry to here your bad news,but we are all wiser after the event,We were robbed while changing a flat tyre in Italy but did not find out till later the Tyre had been Knifed while we where shopping in the Supermarket around Midday so our bag was in the front door well and was hooked from the Drivers side through the open window while my wife was helping me on the blind side of the van a common thing in Italy, but as the police said if we had caught them they would have used the Knife on us.
We have a safe and used it but slipped up while shopping an easy thing to do after a long drive and you are tired,as to Aires we never stop on any Road side aires and will always find an aires off the main routes and never stay on one where you feel unhappy or there are less than one other motorhome on it.Any valuables computor etc go under my fixed bed so god help any one that would wake the wife up in the middle of the night:mad2::ninja:.We leave two foldup chairs in the rear door well that will fall out if the door is opened,a full bottle of wine is also useful to greet them with, and one other aid that I can't mention incase they read this.
We have a cable between the front doors and an extra door bar on the back door for back up.but don't let it put you off traveling, like us you will be more aware from now on.We drive about 5,000 mile a year in Europe with just the one incident todate since 2009.Good luck.:dance:


Snowbirds.


No not insured - nothing was on show in the front but was in the back - but only if you were inside! I thought that some basic precautions that I USUALLY take (but not that night) was enough. Yes you can get those little safe boxes in a good hardware store too.
 
My old 1995 Fiat is pretty basic, so now I tie up the two front doors with rubber straps at night so that it is impossible to open the doors even if they force the lock.

Not such a good idea, they can run round the rubber edging on a quarterlight with a Stanley knife & lift out the glass, only takes 5 secs, the tea-leaf then cuts through the rubber or webbing straps.

Fit good quality dead-locks, I did.
 

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