Adapt Gaslow refillable lpg to take bottled - how?

[Moped]

There may be a time when we are some distance from an lpg filling pump and the only option may be to use bottled gas.

In France for example.

How easy is it to connect a calor gas bottle for example to a Gaslow or Gasit or any form of refillable set up?

Has anybody done it and how?

Basically we do not want to set fire to or blow the motorhome up!

 

[maingate]

You don't need to do that but it is possible with an Alugas bottle (I have an adapter). The alternative is to use a refillable alongside a non-refillable which has a bottle mounted regulator fitted. You Tee them together after the regulators so that you can use one bottle at a time. I had this setup on my last van for 5 years.

 

[wildebus]

There may be a time when we are some distance from an lpg filling pump and the only option may be to use bottled gas.

In France for example.

How easy is it to connect a calor gas bottle for example to a Gaslow or Gasit or any form of refillable set up?

Has anybody done it and how?

Basically we do not want to set fire to or blow the motorhome up!

I an pretty sure you can just swap the bottle over. I did the reverse and apart from adding the filler hose from Gaslow to Filler point, I just took out the Calor and fitted the Gaslow on the same connection (I don't recall anything more complicated than that).
Best to wait for confirmation from someone with more experience & knowledge on the gas side, but I don't think it is anymore complicated than just swapping a a calor bottle
(make sure you don't forget there is nothing attached to the refilling hose and try to refill the whole gas locker!)

(unless I misread and you want to connect a bottle TO the refillable system? In which case, THIS might be what you want? https://www.gaslowshop.co.uk/reserve-cylinder-connection-hose/ )

 

[Deleted member 47296]

Not sure exactly what you are thinking but when abroad I carry Camping Gas 907 cylinders to work with our stoves outside in the sunshine. They act as a back-up for the Gaslow system and if needed I would disconnect the pigtail at the Gaslow and attach via an adapter. https://www.bes.co.uk/campingaz-cylinder-valve-8888/

For the winter I carry a Calor pigtail which I would swap if needed.

 

[witzend]

There may be a time when we are some distance from an lpg filling pump and the only option may be to use bottled gas. In France for example.

Well the outlet connection on a gaslow bottle is 21.8LH thread and so is a Intermarche 11kg propane bottle which is easily sourced in France from most of their stores. So as simple as remove a gaslow and replace with the french bottle
Don't forget you can't get Calor in France

 

[Nabsim]

Just remove one bottle at the changeover valve and fit Calor using the right pigtail

 

[Derekoak]

(unless I misread and you want to connect a bottle TO the refillable system? In which case, THIS might be what you want? https://www.gaslowshop.co.uk/reserve-cylinder-connection-hose/ )

We have one of those although we have never needed it. It says that it will not transfer liquid gas. I always thought that if the external bottle was hotter than our underslung tank and was turned upside down it would, on opening the valve. I dont think there is anything to stop it, gas moves from high to low pressure and pushes any liquid infront of it through first. They may of course have changed the hose since ours was bought.

 

[SquirrellCook]

We have one of those although we have never needed it. It says that it will not transfer liquid gas. I always thought that if the external bottle was hotter than our underslung tank and was turned upside down it would, on opening the valve. I dont think there is anything to stop it, gas moves from high to low pressure and pushes any liquid infront of it through first. They may of course have changed the hose since ours was bought.

This is the sort of thing that can do people serious harm. Just because you can, it doesn’t mean you should. Any encouragement for those that don’t understand the dangers is cruel.

 

[Herman]

I ran out of gas on Shell island on a Saturday afternoon, no gas filling station nearby and they were shut till Monday anyway. So I hired a bottle of gas for the weekend from the on site shop, bought a £5 regulator for it and used the hose off the outside stove. Then back fed the gas through the BBQ gas outlet, worked a treat.

 

[trevskoda]

Not sure exactly what you are thinking but when abroad I carry Camping Gas 907 cylinders to work with our stoves outside in the sunshine. They act as a back-up for the Gaslow system and if needed I would disconnect the pigtail at the Gaslow and attach via an adapter. https://www.bes.co.uk/campingaz-cylinder-valve-8888/ View attachment 98835For the winter I carry a Calor pigtail which I would swap if needed.

Thats what i have as backup, I have a taped manifold with my alugas at one end and a pipe to the 907 tap, very simple to do, other end goes to my regulator.

 

[Moped]

This is the sort of thing that can do people serious harm. Just because you can, it doesn’t mean you should. Any encouragement for those that don’t understand the dangers is cruel.

If you have the hose connected to an lpg filler point and to a Calor or French or Spanish gas bottle placed externally at the side of the MH how can it do serious harm?

It seems like a good back up solution if you run out of refillable lpg and there is no local filling station nearby. Is it a regulator issue?

 

[SquirrellCook]

If you have the hose connected to an lpg filler point and to a Calor or French or Spanish gas bottle placed externally at the side of the MH how can it do serious harm?

It seems like a good back up solution if you run out of refillable lpg and there is no local filling station nearby. Is it a regulator issue?

Sorry I'm not able to pull bits of text out with my Ipad, it the liquid withdrawal that posses dangers.

 

[bartman]

Going back to the example in the original post, LPG is much more available in France than the UK so there's unlikely to be a problem there anyway.

 

[r4dent]

I have on refillable and 1 Calor. If refillable runs out I disconnect the pigtail and connect the Calor pigtail.

 

[Derekoak]

If you have the hose connected to an lpg filler point and to a Calor or French or Spanish gas bottle placed externally at the side of the MH how can it do serious harm?

It seems like a good back up solution if you run out of refillable lpg and there is no local filling station nearby. Is it a regulator issue?

I know there is a safety problem with people trying to refill single use gas cylinders from bigger refillable ones, because amongst other things the components of the single use valve are not meant to be used so much and wear out. None of the components involved in this case are single use so I thought the truth of the physics was not contentious. Of course lots of things are dangerous if you do not know.
I have however never needed to do what I pointed out. There may be a safety problem. I could not tell you what. At a guess maybe the inside of the hose dissolves in liquid lpg and bungs up filters??
I think it is dangerous for vendors to tell unscientific lies, rather than pointing out the real problem.

 

[mid4did]

Gasflow do the emergency fill hose.As in this one at 4 minutes in.I keep it but never used it since the install although I,ve seen longtermers use them in spain .