90 day rule on EU immigration.

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It appears that someone has been banned from the EU for 5 years for over staying by 4 days.
Can we have clarification on this please.
 
  • Deportation – All third-country citizens caught overstaying the number of permitted days of stay in the EU are immediately forced to leave the block. Some of the countries will imprison overstayers and deport them by themselves, while others will give overstayers a certain period of hours or days to leave.
  • Fines – One of the most common penalties for overstaying in the Schengen Area is being fined with an amount of money, though the fees vary from one country to another. Fines, are applied alongside with deportation and are not a substitute for it. They may often be followed with an entry ban too.
  • Difficulties in returning to the Schengen – Almost every deported person will face difficulties to travel back to the Schengen Area. They will face prolonged border checks upon entry, and may even be turned back or banned from entering for a certain period.
  • Entry ban – Usually the Member States ban from entering only those who have overstayed for a longer period. Bans are applied for a period of three years or even more.
 
Its pretty much what happens in most countries , eg From Australia to USA . A friend of mine overstayed on visa in Australia , deported within 24hrs and 3 year ban on return .
 
Perhaps another consideration for anyone contemplating overstaying is that whist the person when caught will be deported in some circumstances it may be easiest for the authorities to do this by air, so a motorhome may have to be left behind.
 
As much as one may do everything right and aim to leave within the 3 months, what I’ve not seen anywhere is what do you do if you or your passenger is ill or hospitalised and unable to travel as intended. If there is a procedure it’s something us old codgers need to know.
 
barge1914 said:
As much as one may do everything right and aim to leave within the 3 months, what I’ve not seen anywhere is what do you do if you or your passenger is ill or hospitalised and unable to travel as intended. If there is a procedure it’s something us old codgers need to know.
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Insurance repatriation
 
barge1914 said:
As much as one may do everything right and aim to leave within the 3 months, what I’ve not seen anywhere is what do you do if you or your passenger is ill or hospitalised and unable to travel as intended. If there is a procedure it’s something us old codgers need to know.
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Surely you would have already researched that before you left?
 
Article 33 clearly states what you should do if stuck in Schengen due to 'force magure'.
 
The bottom line here is you have 90 days to travel throughout the EU, for the vast majority that’s plenty. And if for some reason you want to remain longer you have options to do so. Ok it’s not what it was but it’s still represents what I think is a very fair compromise. And if you have a good reason such as Ill health and have the required paperwork to prove so, I would like to think that common sense and decency would apply. I am sure that our border force would do likewise for anyone from the EU in the same position. I am fortunate I can if I so wish get Irish passports for my wife and I. But I am reluctant to do so, and I don’t really see the need.
 
colinm said:
Article 33 clearly states what you should do if stuck in Schengen due to 'force magure'.
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Yes...a nice article about it here...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Coronavirus: What to Do If You Get Stuck in the EU?

In the past few weeks, countries across the globe have been putting up travel restriction in an effort to stop the further spread of the coronavirus (COVID-19) – especially to foreigners coming from the most affected countries. As the coronavirus disease has become pandemic, the travel...
www.schengenvisainfo.com www.schengenvisainfo.com
 
Fisherman said:
I am fortunate I can if I so wish get Irish passports for my wife and I.
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There’s a building movement in Ireland trying to change the rules on passports for those born outside the country.
And the DFA are already looking for reasons not to issue citizenship to Brits looking for a “Paddy pass” just so you can holiday in the EU as before.

The EU is applying pressure on the Irish Government also.
 
Yes I am aware of this, but my father was Irish and I know this would not apply to myself. It may apply to those with more tenuous links to Ireland than mine. But as I said in my post, I don’t think I would ever apply anyway, but thanks for the information.
 
Fisherman said:
Yes I am aware of this, but my father was Irish and I know this would not apply to myself. It may apply to those with more tenuous links to Ireland than mine. But as I said in my post, I don’t think I would ever apply anyway, but thanks for the information.
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....maybe treat it like insurance, hope not to use it but its there if you need it. Globally the last few years covid and subjects we cant discuss have proven things can change dramatically very quickly.
 
Tookey said:
....maybe treat it like insurance, hope not to use it but its there if you need it. Globally the last few years covid and subjects we cant discuss have proven things can change dramatically very quickly.
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Well that’s how some may do, but I was born here and feel British. Although I do have a strong feeling of connection to Ireland with family there still.
 
As im a Northern Irish brit living up norf but can still get a republic passport because they dont recognize the border,best to carry both passports here and handy to.
 
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