Whitby. No more

[antiquesam]

I have to confess that, despite preferring to be out in the sticks, it is nice to be able to walk to the chippie and have a pint or two before turning in, but the thought of parking overnight on the side of the road doesn't really appeal. Having said that I have parked under the castle in Arundel before now. The exception to my rule I suppose.

 

[Channa]

Im afraid that it is, I cant find anything in Whitby to entertain me for more than a day.

I could sit and look at the view - but I could do that anywhere
I could visit the most expensive wetherspoons in Britain (excluding airports)

But no,for me Whitby is a peasant place for an afternoon - maybe a day if its particularly pleasant weather

Best stop away then ,,,,you had children crabbing off the pier or harbour, boat trips south are the better ones an array of seabirds....walk on the beach looking for jet or ammonites ,,,a visit to Pannet gallery a visit to the old smokehouse ....What influenced Bram Stokers Dracula , What did Captain Cook do ? discovered Australia a walk up the ESK better walk between Whitby and Robin Hoods bay one of the best walks in the world full of little secrets ...regular trips on th eNorth Yorks railway stop off at Goathland ......yes nowt to do

Channa

 

[Deleted member 9849]

Im afraid that it is, I cant find anything in Whitby to entertain me for more than a day.

I could sit and look at the view - but I could do that anywhere
I could visit the most expensive wetherspoons in Britain (excluding airports)

But no,for me Whitby is a peasant place for an afternoon - maybe a day if its particularly pleasant weather

Vive la difference.

Whitby is one of our favourite places to visit in the UK.I just wish they would cater for motorhomers,not all of us want to stay on the expensive local camp sites.

 

[malagaoth]

wondering how many hours you while away at the old smoke house? and it is any better in your opinion than the plethora of "old smoke houses" elsewhere?

As for Mssrs Stoker and Cook whats to see?

Interesting that one of your "things to do in whitby" is to get a train out of whitby!

Im just saying that if I wanted to see Goathland I wouldnt look for it in Whitby

 

[groyne]

That's not how it works in Whitby. Yes the cars do have three or four people in them, but they only travel from Teeside, spend almost no money and leave mountains of litter.

It's because the local councils only empty the bins every two weeks. So the weeks in between we load up the car and set off for Whitby.

What a load of shyte, you'll hear as many if not more, North/East/West Yorkshire accents and other foreigners* in Whitby as you will Teessiders (by the way you spell Teesside with a double s).


* Those that don't come from Yorkshire.

 

[antiquesam]

When we lived in the North West I loved to go to Whitby, with its fishing fleet and fishing community with the odd tripper thrown in. Having lived on the south coast for many years we returned a few years ago and were bitterly disappointed. Gone is the fishing community replaced by the kiss me quick hat sellers and all the cottages given over to holiday lets. Just goes to show you should live with your memories and find new places to tickle the senses.
I should say this isn't the only place to have this happen to me.

 

[mistericeman]

When we lived in the North West I loved to go to Whitby, with its fishing fleet and fishing community with the odd tripper thrown in. Having lived on the south coast for many years we returned a few years ago and were bitterly disappointed. Gone is the fishing community replaced by the kiss me quick hat sellers and all the cottages given over to holiday lets. Just goes to show you should live with your memories and find new places to tickle the senses.
I should say this isn't the only place to have this happen to me.

A common thing with most of our 'popular resorts'.....

I suspect that's why If we head for the coast we tend to search out the less populated bits....
Certainly won't catch us parked up on some carpark in the middle of whitby/scarborough/blackpool/(definitely NOT Morecombe) etc etc.....

Plenty of places to park up away from the bedlam.

 

[maureenandtom]

A common thing with most of our 'popular resorts'.....

I suspect that's why If we head for the coast we tend to search out the less populated bits....
Certainly won't catch us parked up on some carpark in the middle of whitby/scarborough/blackpool/(definitely NOT Morecombe) etc etc.....

Plenty of places to park up away from the bedlam.

... but not as many as there were. And fewer all the time.

 

[mistericeman]

... but not as many as there were. And fewer all the time.

Possibly true as far as 'publicised' spots are concerned.... However I haven't struggled using Mk1 map and Google earth so far....
Biggest problem seems to be the spreading of spots via facebook/T'interweb...
Soon as somewhere is published if its a 'prime' spot it gets flooded and often ruined/gated/signed etc.

 

[Pauljenny]

I understand that the reserved parking spaces at Lidl are to make it easier for motorhomers to park and shop and not have to squeeze into the smaller car parking spaces... Especially as the Southern ones are fitting sunshades, 2.8 m high.
It's not their intention to provide overnight accommodation.
But....

 

[malagaoth]

some suggestions as to why Whitby doesnt want motorhomers

from Whitby

Scarbrorough

Wales

hope the images load if not please use the links - its people with entitlement complexes ripping the 4rse clean out of it

 

[mickymost]

Theres another way to view that, we live in a tourist area in the west coast.
A motorhome often has, from my observation of 100's passing through our town, no more than two people on board.

Cars, people carriers or mini buses could have 5+ people and with no cook facilities in the vehicle would be much more likely to buy food, drinks and accommodation adding to the towns economy.

I have seen a number of discussions where folk want a carpark place overnight for as close to free as possible, so why would I think they'd not stock the van fridge and eat the van, maybe just go out for a drink in town ?
Our local supermarket carpark always had a good number of motorhomes, I wonder how many actually spend time buying things in town apart form fuel and food ?
I would be interested too see the data for where the moneys spent by motorhome owners if it exists ?

The issue of noise, waste etc from the minority and the visual impact of sheer numbers of large, often white motorhomes on the sea front or in one place is always going to upset some locals and businesses.
The views and interests of locals need to be satisfied with action from the local councillors who vote for them so why should be surprised !

Parking for motorhomes needs to carefully considered to avoid visual impact in my view.

We don't tend to stay in towns preferring the wild places or farm type campsites as we are fine off grid in our sliver micro camper, its more for economy rather than intended as stealth !

On the one weekend a year we do stay in a town, we buy our food at the festival all except breakfast.

And most local councillors have been proved to own local caravan sites so are acting in their own interests but motor home owners won't be forced into using them.

Regards mike

 

[maureenandtom]

I have a solution. Somewhere there is parking where these people can be displaced to. A park and ride maybe. I think Scarborough Borough Council does have a park and ride which is locked at night. Or used to, Somewhere there is parking.

A long time ago, ten or more years maybe, we were talking about Scarborough on this site, something like these views were expressed and I showed how this identical problem was arranged in what had been a favourite part of France – for me. Capbreton. I was ridiculed. Capbreton and Scarborough – no comparison. Well, that's opinion but what was certainly comparable was the problem. Scarborough responded with a ban. Capbreton displaced the parking elsewhere and, probably many of us are familiar with the aire there. It began as very much smaller than it is now and expanded over the years.

The aire wasn't always there. It only came into use from the mid 1990s. Prior to that motorhomes parked on the Promenade. And it didn't look too different from the pictures above.

Here's what it looks like now. From streetview a few minutes ago.



That pedestrian area on the right was continuous parking. Not only campervans but cars too. Ideal place – everybody loved it. Except the council.

So what the council did was find space – and it was near residential areas – and made it into an aire. Twenty minutes walk from town. I think it was already in use as a car park for the beach. When I first used it in the 1990s cars used it too. I think it has evolved into parking for motorhomes only but it's a long time since I've been there and I'm not sure.

Now = well, now there is no parking on the front. And no problem. Not to the council. Not to residents and not to motorhomers. It was originally discriminatory - only motrhomes were banned. Now it seems there is equality and all parking is prohibited.





An elegant solution suiting everybody. It can be done.

 

[Channa]

I seem to remember Scarborough were considering an "aire " type of arrangement in Seamer ...miles away from any of the attractions and people thought the idea great

You can bet your last dollar that anywhere else in the town became out of bounds another important distinction between the French attitudes and our own authorities

Thank goodness it didn't happen , like turkeys voting for Christmas

People couldn't see as far as that still some folk want to be parked up with 101 other people I don't ...and on that basis I would appreciate people winding their neck in asking for something others haven't been consulted on and total disregard for the consequences,

Channa

 

[antiquesam]

And most local councillors have been proved to own local caravan sites so are acting in their own interests but motor home owners won't be forced into using them.

Regards mike

That seems a very broad statement. Surely no council area has that many caravan sites. I agree that the views of a caravan site owner, who pays substantial sums in rates, is going to have more influence on the views of a councillor than some fly by night in a gin palace on wheels.

 

[Channa]

That seems a very broad statement. Surely no council area has that many caravan sites. I agree that the views of a caravan site owner, who pays substantial sums in rates, is going to have more influence on the views of a councillor than some fly by night in a gin palace on wheels.

Furthermore places like Scarborough often the larger sites are owned by people such as Park Resorts, Haven etc but they provide tangible employment opportunity for local people who are councillors first responsibility......Motorhomes come way down the list

Channa

 

[Pauljenny]

Having read the varied and well reasoned posts, we have come to the conclusion that we're happy to avoid most of the seaside resort towns . If we're forced to visit, we'd park up outside and use public transport.
The run down suburbs, troglodyte inhabitants and mindless visitors hold no attraction for us to be crammed into their centres.
Scarborough council are doing us a favour.
We are founder members of S.O.D.D.E.M....

Society of Disgruntled Doddery Elderly Motorhomers..
Who will join us?

 

[Channa]

Liberated Exiled Enigmatic Doddery Sorts .....affiliated Paul ? oh look spells Leeds

Channa

 

[mickymost]

That seems a very broad statement. Surely no council area has that many caravan sites. I agree that the views of a caravan site owner, who pays substantial sums in rates, is going to have more influence on the views of a councillor than some fly by night in a gin palace on wheels.

Sadly this is true I live in Skegness and the same applies here, And what I am saying is that the councillors own the caravan sites not the owners influencing the councillors as you state in your post you didnt read my post correctly,and yes there are millions of caravan sites here in Skegness and local councillors have a finger in all the pies..They are against motorhome parking here as well for the same reasons.They want and think banning Motorhomes/campervans from using car parks etc will pressure us to use their sites which in truth is not going to happen.And btw gin palace on wheels thats a bit harsh...

regards Mike

 

[Channa]

Sadly this is true I live in Skegness and the same applies here, And what I am saying is that the councillors own the caravan sites not the owners influencing the councillors as you state in your post you misunderstood me on that point,and yes there are millions of caravan sites here in Skegness and local councillors have a finger in all the pies..They are against motorhome parking here as well for the same reasons.They want and think banning Motorhomes/campervans from using car parks etc will pressure us to use their sites which in truth is not going to happen.And btw gin palace on wheels thats a bit harsh...

regards Mike

Monday mornings Look North ran an article only said East lincs but tightening up on parking ,,,,,showed a bit of footage of a few vans on a beach so where not sure

Skegness is a bit of an unusual location in the respect a lot of statics ( most in the country) and for a couple of years now council on a mission to flush out full timers living on Holiday parks therefore not paying council tax and putting pressure on local services....Similar situation in North Wales Towyn area local MP on a mission

Channa