Cemetery's gates to close overnight

[yorkieowl]

I agree with Rob on this one. We have on occasion visited cemeteries while out in the mh as I find them peaceful places to reflect, and pay respects to the dead, we park outside the gates, but never stay more than a couple of hours at most, usually much less. I would never dream of either getting water, or stopping overnight, but also if we see a funeral procession in front of us, no matter how much of a rush we are in we will not overtake, as I also think that is disrespectful. Old school perhaps?

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

Just as disrespectful are the driving instructors who use the grounds of Luton crematorium for driving lessons.

That's a bit crass ... I have to agree with you there.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

If the Grim Reaper's got you.......you can stay as long as you like!

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

We always try to leave a camp cleaner than we find it.... we even have a litter picker thingy on board.
what we collect is deposited in the first layby bin we find.

seems like the least we can do in return for a free camping spot.

Ditto

But I do it simply because I'd hate the thought that anyone who saw me there thought I'd left it!

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

graveyards are usually very peaceful places to spend a night, apart from the wildlife which makes their homes there, finding these places a good place to avoid humans . i imagine they'd be a good place to have a thermal imaging camera

Perish the thought, that just gives me the heebie jeebies!

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

I agree with Rob on this one. We have on occasion visited cemeteries while out in the mh as I find them peaceful places to reflect, and pay respects to the dead, we park outside the gates, but never stay more than a couple of hours at most, usually much less. I would never dream of either getting water, or stopping overnight, but also if we see a funeral procession in front of us, no matter how much of a rush we are in we will not overtake, as I also think that is disrespectful. Old school perhaps?

Ditto

I am maybe biased as one of my brothers-in-law is an undertaker and has been for nigh on 25 years, but I genuinely believe I held these beliefs before he found his vocation in life.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

I think that the main difference in opinion maybe stems from the fact that I tend to look upon my visits to grave sites as being a celebration of the lives that people have lived and the love they gained rather than the mourning of their passing.

But it is always sad when a child has died, or several members of a family on the same date..

 

[Ed on Toast]

Just to clarify, if needed. My friend lives in the former cemetery keepers cottage (it bridges the fence line), was invited by the councils cemetery officer, to park his car inside the gates and was given a key (the gates are locked at 10 pm and opened at 7am, by the council)

I was parked outside, when the councils cemetery officer, invited me to park inside, while visiting. He though it would act as a deterant, at least during my occasional visits, to those who might wish to steal the lead from the chapel roof.

I relocate outside at 7am, obviously.

It seems a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially in these times of local council reduced budgets for security.

 

[Robmac]

Just to clarify, if needed. My friend lives in the former cemetery keepers cottage (it bridges the fence line), was invited by the councils cemetery officer, to park his car inside the gates and was given a key (the gates are locked at 10 pm and opened at 7am, by the council)

I was parked outside, when the councils cemetery officer, invited me to park inside, while visiting. He though it would act as a deterant, at least during my occasional visits, to those who might wish to steal the lead from the chapel roof.

I relocate outside at 7am, obviously.

It seems a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially in these times of local council reduced budgets for security.

I have nothing against a private arrangement like that Ed.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

Just to clarify, if needed. My friend lives in the former cemetery keepers cottage (it bridges the fence line), was invited by the councils cemetery officer, to park his car inside the gates and was given a key (the gates are locked at 10 pm and opened at 7am, by the council)

I was parked outside, when the councils cemetery officer, invited me to park inside, while visiting. He though it would act as a deterant, at least during my occasional visits, to those who might wish to steal the lead from the chapel roof.

I relocate outside at 7am, obviously.

It seems a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially in these times of local council reduced budgets for security.

Sounds perfect ... one of my nephew's friend's family live in our local cemetary under a similar set up, but the gates are never closed.

 

[yorkieowl]

I think that the main difference in opinion maybe stems from the fact that I tend to look upon my visits to grave sites as being a celebration of the lives that people have lived and the love they gained rather than the mourning of their passing.

But it is always sad when a child has died, or several members of a family on the same date..

My sister died age 45, 20 years ago and her hubby 11 years ago to the day. :sad:
Researching family history we knew my OH had 3 close relatives buried in a local cemetary, on checking further we found another 2 that had died as youngsters (we didn't even know about them), and had been buried in mass graves with no headstones, very sad.

 

[yorkieowl]

Just to clarify, if needed. My friend lives in the former cemetery keepers cottage (it bridges the fence line), was invited by the councils cemetery officer, to park his car inside the gates and was given a key (the gates are locked at 10 pm and opened at 7am, by the council)

I was parked outside, when the councils cemetery officer, invited me to park inside, while visiting. He though it would act as a deterant, at least during my occasional visits, to those who might wish to steal the lead from the chapel roof.

I relocate outside at 7am, obviously.

It seems a mutually beneficial arrangement, especially in these times of local council reduced budgets for security.

I too don't see a problem with this Ed, there is a cottage on site, so parking of vehicles overnight to be expected.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

My sister died age 45, 20 years ago and her hubby 11 years ago to the day. :sad:
Researching family history we knew my OH had 3 close relatives buried in a local cemetary, on checking further we found another 2 that had died as youngsters (we didn't even know about them), and had been buried in mass graves with no headstones, very sad.

Yes that is sad ... in our family twin boy and girl died a few days after birth ... first borns to one of my nephews and his wife, eventually they kept trying and had 3 boys before the girl they wanted came along.

 

[yorkieowl]

Yes that is sad ... in our family twin boy and girl died a few days after birth ... first borns to one of my nephews and his wife, eventually they kept trying and had 3 boys before the girl they wanted came along.

Thats terrible to lose one child, but twins. My maternal nan lost her first born (a son)who was born sleeping but full term, she went on to have 2 daughters, but never got over the loss.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

Thats terrible to lose one child, but twins. My maternal nan lost her first born (a son)who was born sleeping but full term, she went on to have 2 daughters, but never got over the loss.

It was very hard on them for many years and still affects their celebrations as it was about this time of year too.

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

Sorry for your losses, but please lighten up Guys, please!

Good point.

 

[n brown]

ok
having worked for a while as a gravedigger i feel quite at home in these places, but i was once walking through one, at dusk,with a friend who was very nervous and continually looking around. when i simultaneously flicked my lit cigarette past his eyes and lightly touched the back of his leg, the reaction was amazing ! he took off like a demented horse, screaming like a girl !

 

[Auld Pharrrt]

ok
having worked for a while as a gravedigger i feel quite at home in these places, but i was once walking through one, at dusk,with a friend who was very nervous and continually looking around. when i simultaneously flicked my lit cigarette past his eyes and lightly touched the back of his leg, the reaction was amazing ! he took off like a demented horse, screaming like a girl !

I'm not that bad, I don't mind walking past a graveyard or cemetery night or day, but I wouldn't enjoy walking through one at night ... silly really because I'm not superstitious but I prefer to avoid them at night.

In fact, you've just reminded me that another brother-in-law was a grave digger for quite a few years, he thought it was a brilliant job.

 

[mistericeman]

Grave yards are possibly one of THE most peaceful/interesting/impressive places I ever spend time in ....I can understand the issues some folks have though ...we parked up a discrete distance away from one when we were on our visit to the west coast of Scotland earlier in the year ....

We were free to pitch up right on the"Machair" BUT the weather had been so wet that it was badly carved up and we (Rightly or wrongly) thought that any local folks in the grave yard would have rather had us as distant company than see a important part of the local flora/fauna chewed up ???

For what its worth I have a huge amount of time for wandering around old grave stones .....

 

[mistericeman]