MPG claims + petrol v. diesel

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With my 3.5ton twin wheel transit 24ft long 2.5lt non turbo, fully loaded and foot almost wielded to the floor about 70mph, on a long journey I get between 22-28 mpg, I do sometimes coast. Not wishing to be stoned to death I produce BIO and with oil cost (old veg oil) at between 20-30ppl, and 15ppl to turn to bio, my labour is free =about 40ppl, sometimes a little cheaper if I pick up free oil. All I would say is just think how much you are saving by wild camping. The way I look at it is, I’m driving a very large heavy brick, but at least the wine is chilled.:cheers:
 
I get 33 mpg on all kinds of roads.

I have measured this on two long trips full to full, 1800 miles round Scotland, motorway, country, and town driving, up and down steep hills.

I can get 36 mpg driving at 50-55mph in 6th gear on the motorway.

This is a 2.5 litre common rail diesel on a panel van.

A friend who did the Scotland tour got slightly better on his panel van Citroen relay.
 
50mph on a motorway is too slow and I would suggest hazardous.The HGV's would be constantly pulling out into lane 2 to get past,then cars travelling in lane 2 pull into lane 3,then all the Audis,Beemers and Mercs that are in lane 3 have to brake sharply.

By definition, motorways have at least two lanes, so other vehicles should always be able to overtake. It is ludicrous to suggest driving at 50mph is hazardous. If a vehicle changing lanes causes others to brake sharply, it is the lane-changing driver who is causing the hazard, NOT the vehicle driving at a lower speed (unless it's in the wrong lane of course, which can easily lead to prosecution now).
 
I checked my Ducato with neck to neck fillings over several tanks of fuel when I got it and every time found the dash readout to be bang on .
 
cheapest mpg motorhome?

I am going to upset you kiwi, and all the rest with high fuel consumption..........my 2003 fiat ducato 2.3jtd (turbo) diesel engine achieves up to 43mpg generalised driving around eu, in the trigano tribute lwb van conversion, with all the stops pulled out and carefully driven, but not necessarily at low speeds. I know this is frowned upon, but I only use the engine while accelerating, and uphill.........at all other times I find the 2.5ton loading allows it to coast for miles, but I do not take any chances. Anticipation is the driving word. Other users with exactly the same model get the same. Very reluctant to consider a change.............steve Bristol.
 
2.8JTD Ducato Fiat engine pulling up to 4.5t (more like 4t) gives me just over 20mpg average (UK), 25mpg best (France), I don't do slow.... have not got cruise control, but can sit with feet off the controls when in a traffic queue just ticking over and bimbling along. I will, when it is legal and possible, drive at 3000 revs at an indicated 70mph, but 62mph according to sat nav. If I wanted frugal mpg, I would have bought a van conversion.
Love the power I have pulling away and uphills.
Oh... I have a Tunit fitted, but don't know if there would be any difference without it on, as it was fitted when I purchased the vehicle, generally get 330 miles to a tankful.
 
Tailgating is the answer.

My 2013 Sprinter 316 PVC averages about 26/27mpg fill to fill.

The big revelation to me was when I followed my buddy in his 3 axle Autotrail for hours on end was 35/36mpg.

........ Tailgating is the answer, all you have to do is trust the driver you are tailgating :)
 
Now mine is run in I get around 25 MPG. Sprinter 319 auto, all terrain tyres don't help much and I enjoy a bit of ooomph. I can get down to less then 19 if I really try.
 
I filled my tank to the brim when I returned from France in September, I have not had to fill up since and I have just checked it and amazingly it is still full, I have a tunit fitted but I think it is still full due to a combination of two national authorities, the wonderful NHS who throw all the s**t at me they could then topped it up by emptying grey water on me faster than Jim Hunter could only do in his dreams, then a good fuel saver by the DVLA with a fantastic fuel saving called 'SORN', looking to the future I might not need to fill up for a few Months View attachment 37182:mad1::mad1::mad1:
 
My old 1987 Merc 508 3.7ltr non turbo max speed 65 mph gives me 24 mpg under all conditions,I am hoping to do better when its run in ,it had 2572 kilometres on the clock when I got it,it now has 7850 klm .I expected less MPG but I reckoned on offsetting fuel costs against the hope that an old/brand new vehicle would have less breakdown costs and so far (TOUCH WOOD) it has. In all probability, with a bit of luck and good servicing it could give me ,or someone else 200,00/300,00 miles, this could all come crashing down if the present witch hunt against Diesels is succesfull but thats another story.
Bio sounds good but I have a nagging worry about vegetable oils damaging rubber seals ,a new injector pump would negate any fuel savings.
 
I have been reading various MPG claims in the forum and can't compete! I have a Talbot Harmony petrol and only achieve low 20's - even driving carefully. Similar models with diesel I hear achieve over 30MPG. And yes, my tyres are pumped up, not all my driving is uphill, and I don't have the pedal to the floor (although she doesn't exactly perform like a Formula one!)
At least you haven't got any electric modules , sensors or err valves to go faulty
I have a 2012 transit hobby 3.5 ton I get 25 mpg at 70mph but I only pay 80p litre have to buy 200 litres a time though
 
At least you haven't got any electric modules , sensors or err valves to go faulty
I have a 2012 transit hobby 3.5 ton I get 25 mpg at 70mph but I only pay 80p litre have to buy 200 litres a time though

I'm up for a few hundred litre thanks. :)
 
People have always tried to compare mpg, and always will, no doubt, but, IT IS UNLIKELY THAT ANY ARE ABLE TO CHECK WITH ACCURACY!

I say this because there are too many variables that enter into calculations. It has already been posted about the inaccuracies of speedo trip meters, but it doesn't end there.

You don't even know how much fuel you have put in, only how much you have paid for. Pumps are notoriously inaccurate, and in order to avoid problems with weight and measures, are normally set to deliver slightly more than they show. They are spot checked, on a regular basis, and it isn't unknown for the same pump to deliver a different quantity, when checked first thing in a morning, to later, the same day.

Because a fuel expands/contracts, according to temperature, again, you wouldn't know how this affected your calculations.

Even filling tankful to tankful, can't be relied upon, because of the camber effect.

Wind speed is variable, and can have a dramatic effect on fuel consumption.

These are probably the main factors that affect calculations, but there are others.

To sum up, if you can't be sure how much fuel you have put in, or what mileage you have covered, how can you possibly check mpg, with any accuracy.
 
Mine runs surprisingly well on red diesel :drive: and the cost is affordable :dance:
 
don't know when the last time was you drove on the motorway. I can see what you described on a daily basis. There are CARS driving slower than HGV's and as a result HGV's are constantly pulling out into the second lane just to be overtaking by another HGV in the thrid lane.

I feel for the time pressure the HGV's have these days but recently there seemed to be NO RULES for HGV's anymore. Just drive into a temp speed limit zone on the motorway. You will be surrounded by HGV's left righ and centre ignoring the 50mph limit sitting behind your bumper with a 10inch gap. Some even flash you to get out of the way.

And yes, 50mph is too slow on the motorway.:wave:

Nonsence,in n/ireland you are restricted to 45mph on r plates for first year of driving & that includes m/ways
 
Mine runs surprisingly well on red diesel :drive: and the cost is affordable :dance:

25 ltr 28 sec heating oil and 2 ltrs of cooking oil, 28 pence for h/oil now and £1 litre c/oil but if caught you have to pay for tank being emptied and fine £1000 or van taken of you and crushed,not that i would do this.:angel:
 

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