A sneaky speeding crackdown.

[Wooie1958]

I find it easier, although it annoys the hell out of some others on the road thesedays to stay within the speed limit :wave:

I`ve been caught once, mid november 1987 at 05.30am on the A66 in cumbria doing 56mph on a 50mph section !

Had a really busy day so it was foot to the floor and crack on.

Hadn`t seen another vehicle for well over 30 minutes then all of a sudden my mirror was full of police car flashing at me so i pulled over.

It probably didn`t help when i asked him where the hell he`d come from and which stone he`d crawled out from ?

He then proceeded to book me :sad: might have got away with a warning if i`d been apologetic but i really wasn`t in the mood :mad2:

 

[Channa]

30.01mph in a 30.0 mph zone the offence is complete and always has been!.

However ACPO decided to allow tolerance and guidelines. Therein lay a problem each force could pretty much do its own thing.

Richard Brunstrum for example Chief of North Wales adopted a zero tolerance for years. A controversial figure showing journalists the picture of a de capitated motorcyclist ( without the families permission) Hid ing in horseboxes to zap pasiing motorists.

Invariably we all speed at some point,however dont want thefine well the answers simple!

Channa

 

[Channa]

The old cameras had to be re-calibrated to check accuracy, which is why some motorists got off of the fines after challenging the calibration. The new cameras are passed by the HO as being 100% accurate, so if travelling above the speed limit (no matter what your speedometer reads) you will be nicked and no reason to give any leeway.
It is illegal for a speedometer to under read, so all car manufacturers make them over read by a few MPH. So, if your speed is reading 70, you will be doing less.

Rob, all speed cameras have required home office approval always have done ...LTi20/20 was a favourite for a while, challenging calibration is a difficult process as you know.

Channa

 

[Robmac]

30.01mph in a 30.0 mph zone the offence is complete and always has been!.

However ACPO decided to allow tolerance and guidelines. Therein lay a problem each force could pretty much do its own thing.

Richard Brunstrum for example Chief of North Wales adopted a zero tolerance for years. A controversial figure showing journalists the picture of a de capitated motorcyclist ( without the families permission) Hid ing in horseboxes to zap pasiing motorists.

Invariably we all speed at some point,however dont want thefine well the answers simple!

Channa

I agree, although as said, my attention level is low, so if the wife is talking to me (simple answer to that I suppose), or I am listening to something interesting on the radio, I can creep over the limit. No excuses, I'm nicked.

What does annoy me though, is that I feel the punishment doesn't fit the crime, drive a few MPH over the limit, £80 fine and points, possibly lose your job and pay more insurance. Steal a car or 2 and go joy riding, get a warning and told don't do it again.

 

[delicagirl]

my MH has a mileometer in kilometres per hour ... if you get my drift.... so I have to use my satnav all the time to ensure I am not speeding.... I can't think of any other way to be law abiding ... anyone got any other helpful ideas ?

I cannot instantly look at a kilometre number and recalculate it in my head to its mile equivalent...

 

[Robmac]

my MH has a mileometer in kilometres per hour ... if you get my drift.... so I have to use my satnav all the time to ensure I am not speeding.... I can't think of any other way to be law abiding ... anyone got any other helpful ideas ?

I cannot instantly look at a kilometre number and recalculate it in my head to its mile equivalent...

I set the volume on my GPS to loud, so that I hear the alarms better if I go over the speed limit. Previously, I had the volume turned off as it annoyed me, but I now find it necessary.

 

[Wooie1958]

I split the difference between my speedo and the sat-nav.

60 on the speedo and 56 on the sat-nav is 58 in reality in my mind.

It works for me being the honest law-abiding all round nice chappy that i am :dance:

I have been point free since that dark day in my distant past :goodluck:

 

[delicagirl]

Do folks think that the figures my satnav gives me for my moving miles-per-hour are accurate ? or are they low ? or high ?

 

[Robmac]

Do folks think that the figures my satnav gives me for my moving miles-per-hour are accurate ? or are they low ? or high ?

I think they are fairly accurate, but I would err on the safe side and drive a couple of MPH under.

 

[izwozral]

my MH has a mileometer in kilometres per hour ... if you get my drift.... so I have to use my satnav all the time to ensure I am not speeding.... I can't think of any other way to be law abiding ... anyone got any other helpful ideas ?

I cannot instantly look at a kilometre number and recalculate it in my head to its mile equivalent...

Mine too. I am thinking of making a thin circular strip with the miles calibrated by converting km's to miles then lightly sticking it to the face. I don't want to use a satnav all the time because I keep getting told off by the man that lives inside it, every time I creep over the speed limit.:bow::bow:

 

[maxi77]

Do folks think that the figures my satnav gives me for my moving miles-per-hour are accurate ? or are they low ? or high ?

You will get jitter especially in towns where reception can be patchy, but most sets have an averaging system to smooth it out so your gps should be more accurate than your speedo.

 

[izwozral]

my MH has a mileometer in kilometres per hour ... if you get my drift.... so I have to use my satnav all the time to ensure I am not speeding.... I can't think of any other way to be law abiding ... anyone got any other helpful ideas ?

I cannot instantly look at a kilometre number and recalculate it in my head to its mile equivalent...

Just found this which may help.

Speedometer Conversions

 

[st3v3]

KPH speedo - just put sticky red dots at 30/50/70 or whatever you think you need. It's easy to guess the ones in between.

GPS speed - slow to update to changes, and most don't correct for changes in height up and down hills. This will affect the reading.

 

[Channa]

GPS speed - slow to update to changes, and most don't correct for changes in height up and down hills. This will affect the reading.

Exactly the reason it wont stack as a defence in court

Channa

 

[izwozral]

Just found this which may help.

Speedometer Conversions

I inadvertently typed Delicia instead of Delica into Google & came up with this:

TOP DEFINITION
delicia
Means deliciuos and it is a Brazilian slang used for indicating that the person is enjoying the sex.
Que delicia, please don't stop!
It's delicious, please don't stop!
by The Brazilian January 24, 2008

Ooer sinorita, I wont stop if you don't want me to.:shag:

 

[delicagirl]

I inadvertently typed Delicia instead of Delica into Google & came up with this:

TOP DEFINITION
delicia
Means deliciuos and it is a Brazilian slang used for indicating that the person is enjoying the sex.
Que delicia, please don't stop!
It's delicious, please don't stop!
by The Brazilian January 24, 2008

Ooer sinorita, I wont stop if you don't want me to.:shag:

So its you who started calling me Miss Delicious when I first came onto this forum a few short weeks ago !!! you little tinker !!!! But I like you :lol-061:

 

[mark61]

Well. It's considered safe to do 130 kph in France in the right condition. If it's good for them, it's fine by me. We're all in it together after all. Hopefully I'll never have to try and find out if that one works.

 

[Polar Bear]

my MH has a mileometer in kilometres per hour ... if you get my drift.... so I have to use my satnav all the time to ensure I am not speeding.... I can't think of any other way to be law abiding ... anyone got any other helpful ideas ?

I cannot instantly look at a kilometre number and recalculate it in my head to its mile equivalent...

You can buy a 'miles' face for your Speedo/odometer but not a simple job. LOCKWOOD MITSUBISHI DELICA L400 WHITE(B) DIAL KIT SPEEDO METER 45M(B) | eBay

or swap the instrument cluster head. Mitsubishi Delica L300 2.5 86-94 instrument cluster speedo dials clocks MR250179 | eBay

 

[Polar Bear]

The police manage to have speedos that are accurate and calibrated fitted in their cars?
They check them periodically by using the 'measured mile' sections that we often see signed up on country road.
So can we if we were prepared to pay for it?
One way is to have tachograph fitted?

 

[jim dalton]

I think its a myth the cameras have been set to exactly 70mph because:

Manufacturers are allowed tolerances of some (copied) "±10%, mainly due to the effect of temperature, pressure, vehicle load, and tire size. Manufacturers usually calibrate speedometers to read high to ensure that their speedometers never indicate a lower speed than the actual speed of the vehicle to ensure they are not liable for drivers violating speed limits."

This was decided in the 60's by the society of Motor Manufacturers and Trading association and is now enshrined in EU law.

It is the main reason that your GPS (often very accurate from what I have gauged in my truck) shows a different speed to your car. Which is why many people claim that lorries are speeding in 40 and 50mph road works (its actually the other way round "generally") when they are not. I tend to slow to 45mph for 50 limits and don't run into the back of traffic. Yes a hill will make a difference but not by much, unless you've just gone over a cliff!

I know this speedo allowance is true, as I have known two of the former members of that committee, who have confirmed it. ( this calibration information is in the public domain. if you search for it) Plus In another life I worked as a Contract Test Driver at Millbrook for General Motors. (and no I don't have those little stickers on the side of my head )

Because of this "legal" allowance on calibration it would be quite impossible for the police to prosecute you (in a court) for being "within" 10% of 70mph as any motor lawyer would be able to rip it to shreds. Because it makes it impossible to drive exactly at 70mph!

Hence the guidelines of +10% and 1-2 mph or so in general for the police depending on various constabulary. And it will state this in your NIP should you be unlucky to get one

There are only two types of vehicle on EU roads that have accurately calibrated speedos, Theses are Goods Vechs over 3.5T and also police cars who often have an additional one fitted. Should you have received an NIP withing this variance and your didi not have a calibrated Speedo fitted, then you can challenge it.

Interestingly , due to a highly unusual bout of commonsense. The speed limits for over 3.5T HGV vechs will change on April 6th 2015 thus:

Single carriageway will change from 40mph to 50mph
Dual carriageway will change from 50mph to 60mph

Thank goodness for that!

Jim


PS Ive got 6 pts for sp30 btw for 56mph in a 50mph