Wild camping is legal

scampa said:
Surely to have experience of writing risk assessments, one would have to be qualified?? :)
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No, that's not true at all.

Health & safety legislation is written in such a way as to encourage applied common sense, you are simply required to show that you have considered the potential risks & taken reasonable actions in order to mitigate the worst of the potential consequences. Every manager & small business owner should be able to look at their work & workplace & identify probable risks in order to minimise them. There should be no need to buy in common sense, unless the boss is too busy to spend a bit of time considering safety . . .

Sadly there is an "industry" grown up with people using H&S excuses to save them having to offer a reasonable service to the public.
 
Smaug said:
No, that's not true at all.

Health & safety legislation is written in such a way as to encourage applied common sense, you are simply required to show that you have considered the potential risks & taken reasonable actions in order to mitigate the worst of the potential consequences. Every manager & small business owner should be able to look at their work & workplace & identify probable risks in order to minimise them. There should be no need to buy in common sense, unless the boss is too busy to spend a bit of time considering safety . . .

Sadly there is an "industry" grown up with people using H&S excuses to save them having to offer a reasonable service to the public.
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Are you sure that YOU don't have a fixation with Elf N Safety, Smaug?? :)
 
scampa said:
Are you sure that YOU don't have a fixation with Elf N Safety, Smaug?? :)
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I had to do H&S checks to satisfy the local Council when I was running a Bike Recycling project for them. Plus, as a Management Consultant & Trainer I often had to debunk some of the dafter myths. But by nature I am a risk taker, largely cos I am endemically lazy & generally can't be 'rsed, plus I grew up in the late 40's early 50's when, if you got hurt playing on a bomb site, yer dad would box yer ears as well for being naughty . . . :cry:
 
666jw said:
Well Wintonion has really put the cat amongst the pigeons on this thread. :) I constantly hear these names mentioned, Northerner and Alf Hucker ! Did they really exist ? And how long ago ? Fixation, obsessive perhaps :confused:
Sir David eh ? I didn't even know he could play tennis :)
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hello again . . .
 
And another thing!!! This slipped my mind until I went to a supermarket today (for some shopping, not on a research trip! :)).

Many of the larger supermarket car parks have walkways along the rear of their parking spaces in order to keep the pedestrians away from the danger of moving vehicles. The shoppers are able to push their trolleys safely along these walkways and load their shopping into their cars.

However, it seems that the same high proportion of drivers STILL drive FORWARDS into the spaces as they do in other car parks, then, after shopping, push their trolleys along the sides of their cars to reach the boot! This means that you STILL have to navigate your car around these shoppers, their trolleys and their kids, as they load their shopping into their cars!! (And they STILL have to reverse out).

Obviously this blows those (already very feeble) comments about "driving in forwards to allow access to the car boot" completely out of the water, leaving the only possible reasons for driving in forwards as: a lack of forward thinking, poor theoretical knowledge, poor driving ability, little thought to the safety of oneself or others, laziness, or simply follow-like-sheepiness!! :):):)
 
I think I might start shopping online, this is turning into a right kerfuffle Win and Scamp ;)
 
C'mon, David, defend your point at all costs & completely regardless of facts or circumstances, you know it makes sense (err NOT) :lol-053:

Carrying an argument to absurdity just makes you look silly, you might have retained some credibility by accepting that specific case, but no you had to make nonsense up to justify your arbitrary initial stance. It just doesn't wash mate!
 
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I remember now while I love this forum so much, it reminds me when the kids were little, and used to bicker all the time, and never agree to disagree, but just start name calling. I'll do the same as I did then, and leave you to it!!!:idea-007::eek:fftopic::dance: have a nice day, the sun is still shining.:)
 
Is there no one safe ? Have to admit Win, you are a ballsy no nonsense individual. Unfortunatly certain 'ever presents ' just love to get their two penneth worth in, ( not you yorkie owl )usually before the intended person concerned even has had a chance to reply to your post. Would this forum be boring without you ? I think I can hear a majority verdict . Keep on posting , I'm sure the vast majority don't always agree with your rants, but they sure as ell look forward to them. :wave:
 
Ahh finally found something you don't know much about, far too hot to be doing my knitting!:lol-053: (notice you still had to fit a snide remark in).
 
It was said as a tongue in cheek phrase. Most are posts, some ARE rants. Anyway no need to nitpick ( no not you Yorkiowl :) ) Bloody Ell Win, you even find fault with a post that congratulates you, ease up r kid, and lay off all that building work it appears to be the seventh bridge that farmhouse of yours. A G and T perhaps later ? :)
 
Rightly or wrongly that post bought me a huge smile. Shows good sense of humour and character. Nice!

Just shows you, even otherwise intelligent folk can still park the wrong way. :D
 
LOL, I pulled into a private car park a few days ago and saw this sign, so I HAD to take a pic!:

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A quick search online shows that those nice people in Health & Safety are now considering "reverse-parking only" as a part of their risk-assessments, and often recommend implementing it in order to reduce collisions and increase pedestrian safety in car parks.

As is usual in these situations, I would imagine that most car park owners will now worry about NOT implementing a reverse-parking only policy, in order to reduce any likely litigation claims against them for any damage or injuries sustained on their property. Therefore I expect that it will become a common policy in most European car parks within a couple of years! (And about time too, if you ask me!) :):)
 
But perhaps they know that they are not very good at reverse parking and so they are practising in a safe place off the public highway and are hoping for a little tolerance from other drivers for the few seconds that they are held up for.

Or perhaps the vehicle is rear wheel drive.

And perhaps the vehicle is a Beetle which has the engine at the back.


See, there's always an unknown factor. And that's why assumption and presumption is dangerous. Judge if you will, but without knowing all the facts, you can't expect other people to respect your judgement.

And you know that I have no gripe at you, no axe to grind, and that I do quite often agree with some of your points, but (and I haven't yet finished reading the thread) I do think that you've been a tad harsh and presumptive and I think it's time for you to have another G&T and just let your heart rate settle a bit (I'm sooooooooo tempted to tell you to take a chill pill but I know that would generate a torrent about standards of written english these days) ;)
 
hi david also others have boot at front type 3 type4 nsu, skodas fiats porsche hillman imps .do i need to go on .all good vehicles and won lots of races . i,m sure there are loads more come on anyone think of some more .
 
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