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Biggarmac said:
Quite a lot of the 60 to 65 lot will already have been injected as front line care staff. Others may have pre existing conditions and been done with the over 70s.
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Before the 60 to 64's there are 7.4m 16 to 64's who have underlying health problems but how are there fewer over 60's than over 65's?
 
There's a table of the 9 priority cohorts here that includes numbers for each cohort. Looks the same as the one Sam quoted from the BBC...

Briefing – Vaccine Prioritisation

Vaccination policy has been decided nationally, based on evidence-based advice from the independent Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), and is very closely managed. Councils do not have local discretion over the decisions and priorities made.
www.local.gov.uk www.local.gov.uk
 
Ericb said:
one thing this covid outbreak has taught me, there are a lot of selfish people out there who couldnt give a monkeys about anyone else.
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You're right there!
Decent folk still around though. 👍

What I find most worrying and creepy is the way a lot more people now completely avoid eye contact with each other, or show willing to take part in conversational exchange when you're out and about.
No lame jokes please, I know I can talk for England which might have something to do with it - but that only applies to people who know me!!! 😜🤣😁

I put this sort of wariness and withdrawal down to the fear and general awfulness of the way we're having to live just now.

However, when you make a little effort, it's amazing how many people are also relieved to have a passing chat and get an echo of what would once have been 'normal'.

The virus has really changed the way we interact with each other just now. :(😥
 
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mariesnowgoose said:
You're right there!
Decent folk still around though. 👍

What I find most worrying and creepy is the way a lot more people now completely avoid eye contact with each other, or show willing to take part in conversational exchange when you're out and about.
No lame jokes please, I know I can talk for England which might have something to do with it - but that only applies to people who know me!!! 😜🤣😁

I put this sort of wariness and withdrawal down to the fear and general awfulness of the way we're having to live just now.

However, when you make a little effort, it's amazing how many people are also relieved to have a passing chat and get an echo of what would once have been 'normal'.

The virus has really changed the way we interact with each other just now. :(😥
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Don't knock it. I have to take a good look out the window before going out, make sure the coast is clear, otherwise I'll end up chatting and it'll take half n hour to get 100 metres up the road. Never get anything done. :ROFLMAO:
 
mariesnowgoose said:
You're right there!
Decent folk still around though. 👍

What I find most worrying and creepy is the way a lot more people now completely avoid eye contact with each other, or show willing to take part in conversational exchange when you're out and about.
No lame jokes please, I know I can talk for England which might have something to do with it - but that only applies to people who know me!!! 😜🤣😁

I put this sort of wariness and withdrawal down to the fear and general awfulness of the way we're having to live just now.

However, when you make a little effort, it's amazing how many people are also relieved to have a passing chat and get an echo of what would once have been 'normal'.

The virus has really changed the way we interact with each other just now. :(😥
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It's so sad that you've noticed people avoiding eye contact and conversation, etc 🙁

It's not been like that at all where I live. Ever since the first lockdown, far more people have been out walking locally and I can't recall a single one over all these months that hasn't given me a cheery word or responded to mine. Of course, when passing, everyone does the 2m+ version of the do-si-do and one often ends up shimmying into the road or someone's driveway/gateway :LOL: Without fail, there's always a thank you and a smile - yes even behind a mask because you can still tell - and a cheery 'morning' 'lovely day' or 'nothing personal' as you avoid them like the plague :oops: It's been the one silver lining for me throughout this that everyone in my neighbourhood seems more relaxed and friendly about a quick chat in the street.

Having said all that, all bets are off when it comes to supermarket visits!! Even I turn into a growling rottweiler sometimes when I see people with their masks dangling under their chins, pushing past everyone and literally breathing into people's faces by reaching across to grab what they want from the shelf! Grrrrrrrrrr. They're very much in the minority though... and I promise I haven't bitten anyone yet 😊
 
Minisorella said:
It's so sad that you've noticed people avoiding eye contact and conversation, etc 🙁

It's not been like that at all where I live. Ever since the first lockdown, far more people have been out walking locally and I can't recall a single one over all these months that hasn't given me a cheery word or responded to mine. Of course, when passing, everyone does the 2m+ version of the do-si-do and one often ends up shimmying into the road or someone's driveway/gateway :LOL: Without fail, there's always a thank you and a smile - yes even behind a mask because you can still tell - and a cheery 'morning' 'lovely day' or 'nothing personal' as you avoid them like the plague :oops: It's been the one silver lining for me throughout this that everyone in my neighbourhood seems more relaxed and friendly about a quick chat in the street.

Having said all that, all bets are off when it comes to supermarket visits!! Even I turn into a growling rottweiler sometimes when I see people with their masks dangling under their chins, pushing past everyone and literally breathing into people's faces by reaching across to grab what they want from the shelf! Grrrrrrrrrr. They're very much in the minority though... and I promise I haven't bitten anyone yet 😊
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What annoys me Jennie is that people are still wandering around the shops completely preoccupied with their bloody 'phones.

They aren't taking a blind bit of notice where they are going or how near they are getting, the 'phone rules all. They should ban mobile use in supermarkets in my opinion.
 
Any of the vaccines do not stop you catching CV it is given to hopefully stop you getting the worst case of CV and need hospital treatment at best , fatality at worse . Early data shows it does stop hospitalization and fatality at the moment, what is harder to judge is can you carry it and pass it on if vaccinated this is the risk to all those that will not or cannot get vaccinated, hence they are now running tests on children from 6yrs of age , yet when they do pressers they always say young children are rare to get it bad it is not the fact young ones get it lightly it is the passing on of CV to others in higher risks from the young ones that will be an issue. I do think by the end of the year CV will be a treatable disease but more like the treatment of flu all those deemed high risk will need regular jabs . Just my opinion of course a new variant could of course bring all this great work of vaccinating to an end and a need to start over again could be amongst us along with future lockdown look at the extra effort being put in to track African variant , there are some 4,000 variants of CV already only takes one to mutate a bit further than we want and that will take us back to the beginning apart from the tinkling of the DNA of the current vaccine to adapt to the new strain this takes times to do and restrictions possibly lockdown will be needed to hold it back until this is done, my concern is this if it mutates more than common flu as we know the flu jab is changed every season to match the strain and then we go get the jab if CV mutates more than once a season how can we keep getting new jabs is It safe to be jabbed in say Jan for a strain of CV and then again because it changed in say Sept that is my concern anyway. I do hope we can all move about soon and hope to see one or two of you on the road I think the hand wave will mean a lot more when we can move and I will make an effort to make sure I wave back at all of my fellow wilder 👋👋🖒
 
Robmac said:
What annoys me Jennie is that people are still wandering around the shops completely preoccupied with their bloody 'phones.

They aren't taking a blind bit of notice where they are going or how near they are getting, the 'phone rules all. They should ban mobile use in supermarkets in my opinion.
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They have their shopping list on it and now pay buy apt and tap, keep up with the times. 😂
 
Wife made a complaint in eurospar yesterday about folks without masks, manager told her he has no control over it as he would get a smack in the face from rather large builder type that come in and not worth the hastle never mind the hendersons head co not backing him up.
 
blights said:
Any of the vaccines do not stop you catching CV it is given to hopefully stop you getting the worst case of CV and need hospital treatment at best , fatality at worse . Early data shows it does stop hospitalization and fatality at the moment, what is harder to judge is can you carry it and pass it on if vaccinated this is the risk to all those that will not or cannot get vaccinated, hence they are now running tests on children from 6yrs of age , yet when they do pressers they always say young children are rare to get it bad it is not the fact young ones get it lightly it is the passing on of CV to others in higher risks from the young ones that will be an issue. I do think by the end of the year CV will be a treatable disease but more like the treatment of flu all those deemed high risk will need regular jabs . Just my opinion of course a new variant could of course bring all this great work of vaccinating to an end and a need to start over again could be amongst us along with future lockdown look at the extra effort being put in to track African variant , there are some 4,000 variants of CV already only takes one to mutate a bit further than we want and that will take us back to the beginning apart from the tinkling of the DNA of the current vaccine to adapt to the new strain this takes times to do and restrictions possibly lockdown will be needed to hold it back until this is done, my concern is this if it mutates more than common flu as we know the flu jab is changed every season to match the strain and then we go get the jab if CV mutates more than once a season how can we keep getting new jabs is It safe to be jabbed in say Jan for a strain of CV and then again because it changed in say Sept that is my concern anyway. I do hope we can all move about soon and hope to see one or two of you on the road I think the hand wave will mean a lot more when we can move and I will make an effort to make sure I wave back at all of my fellow wilder 👋👋🖒
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Another really important thing to remember is that the less people who catch it, the less chance the virus has to mutate. The hands, face and space thing will be 'normal' for a very long time to come I think... we need to get the case numbers down very very low and keep them there. It really is all down to us as individuals :)
 
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