Hybrid motorhomes

[phillybarbour]

Just remembered, a car manufacturer is launching an EV with solar roof, it's claimed this will power the car for 800miles per year if it's always left outside in sun.

800 a year! Chocolate fore guard springs to mind.

 

[colinm]

So you are going against the advice given by experts that we will need additional supply to cope with the demand. The fact is currently we don’t have sufficient supply to deal with what may lie ahead. I am not giving you my opinion, but the opinion of those charged with such issues. If you reckon that we can simply drum up all of this additional electricity without increasing supply then that is fine by me.

I quite clearly posted that we needed extra capacity.

 

[colinm]

There are possibilities of flattening wind variability and coping with demand spikes with lithium battery banks, Now these are cheaper. In fact plugged in electric cars may be used for this purpose if supply technology gets smart enough. We surely dhould be offered cheaper electricity if we accept charging offpeak.

Tesla are fitting battery banks to their charging stations, but I'm led to believe they may be lead acid.

 

[Derekoak]

Tesla are fitting battery banks to their charging stations, but I'm led to believe they may be lead acid.

Tesla powerpacks are fitted to the grid in some places they are lithium

 

[colinm]

Tesla are fitting battery banks to their charging stations, but I'm led to believe they may be lead acid.

Tesla powerpacks are fitted to the grid in some places they are lithium

A quick google brings up this.
Lead battery tech could make electric car charging cheaper | Autocar

 

[Fazerloz]

For the vast majority of the time we don't need the cross channel links for capacity purposes, we use them to offset CO2, the alternative would be to import more gas or fire up the coal stations.

:lol-049:

 

[ricc]

vehicle based solar charging is pie in the sky. you just cant get enough panels on the vehicle. i saw summit on tv recently about the race across australia for solar powered vehicles , even with purpose university built single seat light weight contraptions they struggle to get sufficient power even in australia's wall to wall sunshine.

though trev's mate in ireland seems to manage , i guess hes got his mansion roof charging his vw for his weekly trip to the shops

 

[trevskoda]

vehicle based solar charging is pie in the sky. you just cant get enough panels on the vehicle. i saw summit on tv recently about the race across australia for solar powered vehicles , even with purpose university built single seat light weight contraptions they struggle to get sufficient power even in australia's wall to wall sunshine.

though trev's mate in ireland seems to manage , i guess hes got his mansion roof charging his vw for his weekly trip to the shops

He uses his car every day,excess lecy goes back into the gride cutting his costs,his home is a 3 bed semi,winter he must draw from the grid,so about 60/40 on his side.

 

[Channa]

Long term viability seems a problem with all alternative fuels , there seems serious flaws with all the contenders as we speak which need to be overcome whether it be the technology or infrastructure

Industrial financial might, may well dictate what happens and that is not necessarily the best outcome for fuel alternatives

History suggests always been the case examples Windows v Linux > Tesla v Edison , VHS v beta max the point being the most effective solutions are not always the ones that reach the top of the game

Channa

 

[Fazerloz]

World wide Fossil fuel consumption is still increasing every year and until the likes of China, India, Russia, USA, etc get on board all this tiny country is doing is paying a heavy price to piss in the wind. Does anyone think all the major oil, gas producing countries are going to happily stop peddling gas and oil.

 

[daygoboy]

vehicle based solar charging is pie in the sky. you just cant get enough panels on the vehicle. i saw summit on tv recently about the race across australia for solar powered vehicles , even with purpose university built single seat light weight contraptions they struggle to get sufficient power even in australia's wall to wall sunshine.

though trev's mate in ireland seems to manage , i guess hes got his mansion roof charging his vw for his weekly trip to the shops

Post #19, gives some idea of what it's about.

 

[Fisherman]

World wide Fossil fuel consumption is still increasing every year and until the likes of China, India, Russia, USA, etc get on board all this tiny country is doing is paying a heavy price to piss in the wind. Does anyone think all the major oil, gas producing countries are going to happily stop peddling gas and oil.

I can not argue against what you say, we only contribute 2% of CO2 levels whereas the USA and China combined output is around 50%. But we have to take this serious, and I support countries including ours who are trying to prevent global warming. One day the big polluters will have to change their ways, but unfortunately it may be to late by then, and that time could well be sooner than later.

 

[trevskoda]

Fuel and food will start the next world war which may well be the end as we know it.
It may have happened before.

 

[Derekoak]

World wide Fossil fuel consumption is still increasing every year and until the likes of China, India, Russia, USA, etc get on board all this tiny country is doing is paying a heavy price to piss in the wind. Does anyone think all the major oil, gas producing countries are going to happily stop peddling gas and oil.

I do not see that we are paying a heavy price being a little ahead of the game. There are advantages to being first. Any subsidies we have paid have been rewarded, our infrastructure is partially there. We were in front of Denmark in wind power until the government cut subsidies, now Demark makes many wind generators not us,
. There are still advantages to be had from being ahead. Renewables are now cheaper per kw than many other fuels: coal, nuclear, and not far behind gas. So dont piss into the wind use it first!
No. oil companies are going to continue to fund obstructive politicians despite the obvious damage they are doing. Saudi has oil but also has massive solar potential. We must get them to diversify. Golbal heating will destroy places like The Saudi environment. They all need persuading. We should be the nation to do it. First with the industrial revolution early a with low carbon economy.
China India and The US will be hit hard too. Russia might be the problem as they are not in the forefront of global heating damage. As Fisherman says we must try.

 

[colinm]

I can not argue against what you say, we only contribute 2% of CO2 levels whereas the USA and China combined output is around 50%. But we have to take this serious, and I support countries including ours who are trying to prevent global warming. One day the big polluters will have to change their ways, but unfortunately it may be to late by then, and that time could well be sooner than later.

At the moment there are two problems, global co2 and local pollution. At this moment in time EV's or Hydrogen cell will only solve local pollution, it requires some serious will to sort out global co2, as you say any effort to try and sort it is a good thing, but like you i do worry that it may be too late before we see a real change.

 

[martinmartin]

No! Don't go upsetting people with facts like that. Don't you know temperature rises can only be valid if they occur after the mini ice age, and please don't go mentioning the period known as the Younger Dryas, :lol-053:

Ok,l wont mentioned the younger dryas but what about the older wetass period that will blight our summers.

 

[colinm]

Well if this is the future for EV's I want one.
Introducing Lamborghini Terzo Millennio

The concept they are trying to work with could also see trucks powered by electricity, similar to the way some trams now use rechargeable and superconductors.

 

[Fisherman]

The simple fact is right now all that's available is diesel, and that will be the case for a great number of years yet.
When I turn 70 in just over 5 years, I may move away from a motorhome to a van conversion.
I fully expect t to be buying a diesel then.

 

[Fazerloz]

I do not see that we are paying a heavy price being a little ahead of the game. There are advantages to being first. Any subsidies we have paid have been rewarded, our infrastructure is partially there. We were in front of Denmark in wind power until the government cut subsidies, now Demark makes many wind generators not us,
. There are still advantages to be had from being ahead. Renewables are now cheaper per kw than many other fuels: coal, nuclear, and not far behind gas. So dont piss into the wind use it first!
No. oil companies are going to continue to fund obstructive politicians despite the obvious damage they are doing. Saudi has oil but also has massive solar potential. We must get them to diversify. Golbal heating will destroy places like The Saudi environment. They all need persuading. We should be the nation to do it. First with the industrial revolution early a with low carbon economy.
China India and The US will be hit hard too. Russia might be the problem as they are not in the forefront of global heating damage. As Fisherman says we must try.

It's nice to know renewables a producing cheaper electricity I look forward to a reduction in my electric bills. When do you think they will announce that one.? Sometime never.

 

[Derekoak]

It's nice to know renewables a producing cheaper electricity I look forward to a reduction in my electric bills. When do you think they will announce that one.? Sometime never.

I am afraid nuclear is so full of problems that private companies (chinese and french) need us to bail them out for any cost over runs before they take new contracts up. So I would not hold your breath. Push for government to allow land based wind turbine farms again . They produce the cheapest electricity.