Wild camping on Arran & Islay

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Hi, am visiting the above this summer, and would welcome any hints on some good overnight stops, the excellent Wild Camp app shows many, would just be good to have any recommendations, cheers. Am preparing ourselves with obligatory potions to cope with the dreaded midge, thought copious amounts of malt whisky might help!
 
Good Thread

I am considering similar
Ardrossan to Brodick (ferry)
Tour Arran
Lochranza to Claonaig (ferry)
Then South on the East Coast to Campbeltown (B842)
Then North to Lochgilphead

Ps I remember posts indicating Arran is a bit unwelcoming to "wild camping"..
Views on that appreciated please.
 
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On Arran you are spoilt for wild camping spots.
Heres what we do when we go over in the ferry three or four times a year.

First the breakfast on the ferry is fairly good and it sets you up.
At £7.95 inc coffee or tea its certainly no rip off.
Get a copy of the bus time tables from the ferry.
Brodick has a Coop supermarket, which is the largest on the island.

When you get off the ferry head north drive through Corrie and head for Sannox.
About half a mile past sannox on your right you will see a sign for pony trekking.
Take the single track road for about 1/3rd of a mile and you will come to the forresty commission carpark, with stunning views across the firth of Clyde to Bute and Cumbrae.
If you are feeling active from there there is a fine coastal walk to the fallen stones, or if you are up for it walk all the way to Lagg Cottage.
If you are really up for it you can walk all the way to Lochranza and then return using the bus.

Next head north to Lochranza, you will find somewhere to park up during the day.
There is a lay-by next to the church, but at night the carpark for the ferry to claonaig is empty and you can park up there.

Next head south about 4 miles to Thundergay. There is an excellent lay bye on your right about 200 yards before you come to the houses of mid thundergay,
From there you can walk up to a beautiful spot with a lochin called fionann lochan. some go for a swim.

Next head further south to Blackwaterfoot were you can empty your toilet and get fresh water at the public toilets, and maybe pop into the hotel for a coffee or a meal.

Then head further south to Kildonnan and stunning views towards Pladda lighthouse and Paddys milestone out in the Irish Sea.
There is a campsite here if you fancy some hook up etc.
There are a few places for you to pull in.

Then head west to Whting bay, but you will go through a lovely village called Lagg.
You can pop into Lagg hotel for a coffee and cake or whatever takes your fancy.

Whiting bay also has a chemical waste point behind the public toilet.
Its a lovely spot to go for a walk.

Next head for Kerr point, my post below covers this stop.

Next its back to Brodick and the ferry home.

If you are feeling fit Goat Fell at 2866 ft is a tough but rewarding mountain.
On a clear day you get fantastic views across the island, and you can see Northern Ireland.
You can do it from Brodick or from Corrie.
I prefer Corrie its more direct.

Enjoy and here my post from last year.


Many moons ago as a wide eyed legless teenager, I traveled for the first time to the Isle of Arran in the firth of Clyde. I was the product of the Glasgow tenements, sandstone buildings that enveloped Glasgow like a shrine to its Victorian past. Then Glasgow had a population of around a million, it had fallen from 1.2 million after developments in Cumbernauld, East Kilbride, Livingston, and Irvine new town. Also many living in Glasgow’s centre had been rehoused in developments on its outskirts in places such as, easterhouse and drumchapel.

Well I lived close to the city centre, and like many at that time I had not ventured far beyond my home place, I had never seen a place like Arran before, it took my breath away. Large Forrests, mountains, farming land, and the sea surrounded the island reminding me there was only one way to arrive and depart from here, by the cal Mac ferry from ardrossan.

My first visit took me three miles south on foot to Lamlash. I will never forget my first sighting of lamlash bay with the holy isle neatly positioned in its bay, a gift of nature with its summit the mullach mor standing proud reaching for the clouds at over 900 feet in height. This place has history, it used to be a sanctuary for the Royal Navy. It’s from here that winston Churchill’s wish to send the troops to Northern Ireland to force the north to live within a united Ireland was refused. You can still see the remnants of two navy observation points clinging on to the side of the hillside.

I have seen, grey and common seals, otters, dolphins, various birds of prey, oyster catchers, Herons, cormoronts and red deer here.

The poi I enjoy visiting is an ad hoc carpark in the adjoining village of marganaheglish. You have the luxury of waste bins, two pick nick benches and two commemorative benches in a rural carpark large enough for about 5-6 vans.

From here you can do a coastal walk to Arran’s main village Brodick, or roam the clauchland hills.
Or take a walk along the coastline past the many splendid homes of Margnaheglish, from there into Lamlash.
Enjoy a beer and a meal at the Peirhead Inn in Lamlash.
Or you can simply sit on one of the benches and take in the beauty of this place.

If you are looking for a more energetic break you can do the Arran coastal walk (59miles) I have done this twice and it’s a fantastic walk. You can base yourself in Brodick and use the local buses to get you back each day then return you to where you left of the day before, till you have completed the route.
Or you can climb Arran’s highest mountain Goat Fell 2866 ft, on a clear day you can see Northern Ireland.
Or walk through glen Sannox up over the saddle into the beautiful glen Rosa and back to Brodick.
Simply get the bus from Brodick to Sannox then commence your 10 mile hike.

If you fancy a trip to the holy isle you can get a boat from Lamlash and spend the day on the island.
The island is owned by a religious sect who are very welcoming to visitors.
You can walk to the top of the island and reach the summit the mullach mor and enjoy a 360o seascape.

Arran is generally welcoming to visitors with Motorhomes, and there are plenty of places to visit.
The west side of the island is very quiet and the views over the kilbrannan sound to kintyre are wonderful, particularly on a clear night, when the sun sets in the West,

To get to my favourite poi when you get of the ferry from ardrossan drive 3 miles south to Lamlash then on arrival immediately take the left turn into marganaheglish. You will see signs for the hospital. Drive along the road for 1.5 miles till you come to the end. The carpark is on your right.

The ferry takes 55 minutes and two adults and a mh less than 6m costs £47 return.
The ferry is subsidised by the Scottish government using its road tariff equivalent scheme.
This scheme now applies to all of Scotland’s islands appart from the Orkney and Shetland’s. But plans are afoot to include them in the near future.

So the poi on Arran’s marganaheglish is my favourite poi to date, what’s yours.
 
Thank you

On Arran you are spoilt for wild camping spots.
Heres what we do when we go over in the ferry three or four times a year.

First the breakfast on the ferry is fairly good and it sets you up.
At £7.95 inc coffee or tea its certainly no rip off.
Get a copy of the bus time tables from the ferry.
Brodick has a Coop supermarket, which is the largest on the island.

When you get off the ferry head north drive through Corrie and head for Sannox.
About half a mile past sannox on your right you will see a sign for pony trekking.
Take the single track road for about 1/3rd of a mile and you will come to the forresty commission carpark, with stunning views across the firth of Clyde to Bute and Cumbrae.
If you are feeling active from there there is a fine coastal walk to the fallen stones, or if you are up for it walk all the way to Lagg Cottage.
If you are really up for it you can walk all the way to Lochranza and then return using the bus.

Next head north to Lochranza, you will find somewhere to park up during the day.
There is a lay-by next to the church, but at night the carpark for the ferry to claonaig is empty and you can park up there.

Next head south about 4 miles to Thundergay. There is an excellent lay bye on your right about 200 yards before you come to the houses of mid thundergay,
From there you can walk up to a beautiful spot with a lochin called fionann lochan. some go for a swim.

Next head further south to Blackwaterfoot were you can empty your toilet and get fresh water at the public toilets, and maybe pop into the hotel for a coffee or a meal.

Then head further south to Kildonnan and stunning views towards Pladda lighthouse and Paddys milestone out in the Irish Sea.
There is a campsite here if you fancy some hook up etc.
There are a few places for you to pull in.

Then head west to Whting bay, but you will go through a lovely village called Lagg.
You can pop into Lagg hotel for a coffee and cake or whatever takes your fancy.

Whiting bay also has a chemical waste point behind the public toilet.
Its a lovely spot to go for a walk.

Next head for Kerr point, my post below covers this stop.

Next its back to Brodick and the ferry home.

If you are feeling fit Goat Fell at 2866 ft is a tough but rewarding mountain.
On a clear day you get fantastic views across the island, and you can see Northern Ireland.
You can do it from Brodick or from Corrie.
I prefer Corrie its more direct.

Enjoy and here my post from last year.


Many moons ago as a wide eyed legless teenager, I traveled for the first time to the Isle of Arran in the firth of Clyde. I was the product of the Glasgow tenements, sandstone buildings that enveloped Glasgow like a shrine to its Victorian past. Then Glasgow had a population of around a million, it had fallen from 1.2 million after developments in Cumbernauld, East Kilbride, Livingston, and Irvine new town. Also many living in Glasgow’s centre had been rehoused in developments on its outskirts in places such as, easterhouse and drumchapel.

Well I lived close to the city centre, and like many at that time I had not ventured far beyond my home place, I had never seen a place like Arran before, it took my breath away. Large Forrests, mountains, farming land, and the sea surrounded the island reminding me there was only one way to arrive and depart from here, by the cal Mac ferry from ardrossan.

My first visit took me three miles south on foot to Lamlash. I will never forget my first sighting of lamlash bay with the holy isle neatly positioned in its bay, a gift of nature with its summit the mullach mor standing proud reaching for the clouds at over 900 feet in height. This place has history, it used to be a sanctuary for the Royal Navy. It’s from here that winston Churchill’s wish to send the troops to Northern Ireland to force the north to live within a united Ireland was refused. You can still see the remnants of two navy observation points clinging on to the side of the hillside.

I have seen, grey and common seals, otters, dolphins, various birds of prey, oyster catchers, Herons, cormoronts and red deer here.

The poi I enjoy visiting is an ad hoc carpark in the adjoining village of marganaheglish. You have the luxury of waste bins, two pick nick benches and two commemorative benches in a rural carpark large enough for about 5-6 vans.

From here you can do a coastal walk to Arran’s main village Brodick, or roam the clauchland hills.
Or take a walk along the coastline past the many splendid homes of Margnaheglish, from there into Lamlash.
Enjoy a beer and a meal at the Peirhead Inn in Lamlash.
Or you can simply sit on one of the benches and take in the beauty of this place.

If you are looking for a more energetic break you can do the Arran coastal walk (59miles) I have done this twice and it’s a fantastic walk. You can base yourself in Brodick and use the local buses to get you back each day then return you to where you left of the day before, till you have completed the route.
Or you can climb Arran’s highest mountain Goat Fell 2866 ft, on a clear day you can see Northern Ireland.
Or walk through glen Sannox up over the saddle into the beautiful glen Rosa and back to Brodick.
Simply get the bus from Brodick to Sannox then commence your 10 mile hike.

If you fancy a trip to the holy isle you can get a boat from Lamlash and spend the day on the island.
The island is owned by a religious sect who are very welcoming to visitors.
You can walk to the top of the island and reach the summit the mullach mor and enjoy a 360o seascape.

Arran is generally welcoming to visitors with Motorhomes, and there are plenty of places to visit.
The west side of the island is very quiet and the views over the kilbrannan sound to kintyre are wonderful, particularly on a clear night, when the sun sets in the West,

To get to my favourite poi when you get of the ferry from ardrossan drive 3 miles south to Lamlash then on arrival immediately take the left turn into marganaheglish. You will see signs for the hospital. Drive along the road for 1.5 miles till you come to the end. The carpark is on your right.

The ferry takes 55 minutes and two adults and a mh less than 6m costs £47 return.
The ferry is subsidised by the Scottish government using its road tariff equivalent scheme.
This scheme now applies to all of Scotland’s islands appart from the Orkney and Shetland’s. But plans are afoot to include them in the near future.

So the poi on Arran’s marganaheglish is my favourite poi to date, what’s yours.

Thankyou very much .....That is really helpful.
I went to Arran on a walking Hostelling trip Many many many even many moons ago (40 ish)
We stayed @ Lochranza and walked up Goat Fell and others.
It will be good to go back and spend maybe a week on Arran before crossing westerly from Lochranza
 
I am considering similar
Ardrossan to Brodick (ferry)
Tour Arran
Lochranza to Claonaig (ferry)
Then South on the East Coast to Campbeltown (B842)
Then North to Lochgilphead

Ps I remember posts indicating Arran is a bit unwelcoming to "wild camping"..
Views on that appreciated please.

I have never found Arran unwelcoming.
Once you head out from Brodick you will find plenty of places to stop over without upsetting the locals,
The west side of the island is very quiet.

I don’t spend any time in Brodick, other than to go to the coop and Arran outdoors which sells outdoor equipment and clothing. If your van is 6 m or less you can park face in towards the pavement, if longer you need to park parallel to the pavement.
 
a very eloquent post fisherman but it just goes to show that one mans meat is anothers poison, as i type this i look out the widow and see Arran across the bay and i have no intention or wish to go there, I find the islanders money grabbing and rude, and a lot of the people who have holiday homes do not want the island full of motor-homes ( a recent conversation), however you are correct if you go to the parts of the island where there is no one around you can find peace and tranquillity and awesome views, but i'm sorry the people are the problem

nice to look at though its in my avatar

rab
 
a very eloquent post fisherman but it just goes to show that one mans meat is anothers poison, as i type this i look out the widow and see Arran across the bay and i have no intention or wish to go there, I find the islanders money grabbing and rude, and a lot of the people who have holiday homes do not want the island full of motor-homes ( a recent conversation), however you are correct if you go to the parts of the island where there is no one around you can find peace and tranquillity and awesome views, but i'm sorry the people are the problem

nice to look at though its in my avatar

rab

There are a small amount of idiots who primarily live in Brodick who talk of being inundated with Motorhomes. I had a wee chat with one two years ago. He told me that the island was plagued by Motorhomes. I have a good friend who works for cal Mac, and he told me that on that day there were around 20 Motorhomes on the island. Arran has a road network of around 100 miles that works out at one for every five miles. My philosophy is simple arrive in Brodick do what you have to, then get out of the place.

Most arraners have no problems with Motorhomes, and Arran is one of the few places to provide chemical waste points and fresh water for free. I have heard that calmac are putting one at the ferry terminal. This would mean there would be three with whiting bay and blackwaterfoot also having cwps. The council have looked into putting one in Lochranza, but the problem is they only have septic tanks on that part of the island.
But this only serves to underline not only a problem here but uk wide.
In the last three years I have paid around £20,000 in vat purchasing two Motorhomes.
Then there’s road tax, fuel duty, and the business we give to others like insurance companies, break down recovery etc. We spent around £400 on the island last year on outdoor clothing, and food.

This country does not have a problem with Motorhomes, it has far less per capita than most EU countries.
The problem is the narrow minded individuals who pester their councils into putting up barriers and no overnight parking signs. And successive governments who are more than happy to take our money whilst spending none of it on providing us with what we require.


It’s a shame you won’t go over to Arran, it has much to offer considerate Motorhome owners.
 
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I have wilded there and stayed in the campsite near lochranza. very nice. Pretty easy, not a lot of spots though as well used as the MH population grows. Been twice but will not do it again as too many MHs about and the roads are not looked after. Ripped a tyre last time.
 
I have wilded there and stayed in the campsite near lochranza. very nice. Pretty easy, not a lot of spots though as well used as the MH population grows. Been twice but will not do it again as too many MHs about and the roads are not looked after. Ripped a tyre last time.

They spent over £2 million on the roads last year.
Large sections of the road between Sannox and Lochranza being widened and the whole section re surfaced.

The roads are narrow on Arran particularly the west part of the island. But I have driven from pirnmil to blackwaterfoot without seeing another vehicle of any description.

I have driven worse roads on the mainland than those on Arran.
In comparison to roads on other islands such as Mull, and Islay, I think Arrans roads are a lot better.

Can I ask how you ripped a tyre.

Here’s an article from last year

Our Distillery & Visitor will be open again to welcome visitors from Saturday 3rd February 2018 and we are looking forward to welcoming everyone once again through our doors!

If you are planning to pay us a visit, we'd like to make sure that you are aware of some of the roadworks that are currently underway on the island. You will need to plan your journey a little more and leave some extra time (approx an extra 30 mins) for your journey up to Lochranza.

North Ayrshire Council are currently working on carriageway resurfacing and widening on the A841 Bogullie (Sannox to Lochranza, near Witches Bridge.) Contractors are working 7 days a week.

The road will be closed 09:15 - 16:30 daily with traffic signals being in place overnight in the interests of public safety. These works commenced on 29th January and are anticipated to be completed by 23rd March 2018.

For those coming from Brodick Pier, the journey from Brodick to Lochranza via Sannox and Corrie on the A841 would normally take approx. 30-35 mins in a car, however this route will not be available during these works.

The alternative route is the B880 String Road from Brodick which takes you at out at Machrie and round to Lochranza, approaching it from the opposite direction. This takes approx. 50 minutes in a car.

As an exception, the Lochranza closure will not be in force on Saturday 3rd and Sunday 4th February due to the String (B880) works.
The B880 String, Glenshurig, Isle of Arran, North Ayrshire will be closed from 08:30 hours to 16:30 hours daily on Sat 3rd February 2018 and Sun 4th February 2018.
 
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'And successive governments who are more than happy to take our money whilst spending none of it on providing us with what we require.'

Certainly true of Mull.I hope they dont include the Shetlands in RET...a fantastic place and my new favourite Scottish isle and very welcoming to m/h's and fantastic facilities all over the mainland and the surrounding islands and would hate to see the goodwill from the islanders lost and spoilt by the inconsiderate few.Keep it expensive and keep away the riff raff would be my policy if i were a Shetlander.
 
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Sorry Jeff I don’t understand.

You merely copied what I posted with no comment whatsoever.

Lol,you were too quick,i'm not used to the quote malarkey and saved your quote then had to go back in into edit mode to add my comment.I was commenting on how Mull get millions each year from tourism but never seem to put anything back into the infrastructure,no 1 issue being the roads.
 
Lol,you were too quick,i'm not used to the quote malarkey and saved your quote then had to go back in into edit mode to add my comment.I was commenting on how Mull get millions each year from tourism but never seem to put anything back into the infrastructure,no 1 issue being the roads.

The biggest problem on Mull is road between Salen and Tobermory.
Most of this is single track which is fine for the rest of the island with very low amounts of traffic.
I prefer single track roads with plenty of passing places to narrow two way roads such as the Loch Lomond road north of Tarbert. I have driven that road plenty of times and have had to stop on two occasions on bends to pass HGV vehicles.

Also last time I was on the island there were a few Motorhomes in Tobermory, with the ledaig carpark having have a dozen or so parked there. But the big problem is the lack of chemical waste points. I have heard that plans are afoot to improve this situation. Mull is a beautiful island let’s keep it that way.

We are planning a week on Tiree this summer, and have booked a pitch on a Croft on the island.
 
'And successive governments who are more than happy to take our money whilst spending none of it on providing us with what we require.'

Certainly true of Mull.I hope they dont include the Shetlands in RET...a fantastic place and my new favourite Scottish isle and very welcoming to m/h's and fantastic facilities all over the mainland and the surrounding islands and would hate to see the goodwill from the islanders lost and spoilt by the inconsiderate few.Keep it expensive and keep away the riff raff would be my policy if i were a Shetlander.

I think that eventually it will, and the Shetland islanders are campaigning for it Jeff.

The orkneys will be part of RET this year I think, possibly someone else has information.

What I would say Jeff is it’s a long way away, and I don’t think even with RET, that the Shetland isles will ever be as busy as those already covered. I was on Lewis and Harris last year it’s covered by RET, and I did not find to many Motorhomes there, and the locals were very welcoming.
 
Have a look at this Jeff


MSP calls for greater urgency over introduction of road equivalent tariff on Orkney ferries
by Chris MacLennan
October 15, 2018, 5:15 am
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Orkney’s MSP, Liam McArthur, has voiced concerns at the lack of urgency the Scottish Government has shown in introducing a Road Equivalent Tariff (RET) on Orkney ferry routes.

The initiative, which was rolled out to services in the Hebrides a decade ago, was due to be delivered to the northern isle routes by the end of June.

Fresh delays have been encountered as a complaint has been made to the European Commission in regards to the Scottish Government’s plans to reduce ferry fares to Orkney.

In a written letter to the Orkney MSP, minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands, Paul Wheelhouse informed Mr McArthur that the Scottish Government remains committed to introducing RET to Orkney and Shetland, despite only being able to reduce fares for passengers travelling to and from Shetland by 20%.

Mr McArthur said: “The ongoing delay in introducing RET on Northern Isles ferry routes means that those using these lifeline services are being forced to continue paying over the odds.

“In light of that fact, people in Orkney and Shetland have every right to expect the Scottish Government to be straining every sinew to find a resolution to the impasse with Pentland Ferries.

“The Minister’s latest response to the representations that Tavish Scott and I have been making on this issue, however, displays a worrying lack of urgency.

“Almost four months on from the planned introduction of RET on Orkney and Shetland routes, the government still appears to be dithering over ‘options available’.

“Orkney’s exclusion from the government’s cheaper ferry fares scheme has gone on for a decade and more.

“It is long past time for a greater sense of urgency.”
 
The toilets at Sannox are now locked because of Motorhomes emptying toilet cassettes and the locals are very nimby. I think the toilets are closed at Blackwater foot also. It’s a shame as it used to be a nice wee island. I thinks it’s because it’s only a wee place and doesn’t take a lot of vans to make it look busy.
 
The biggest problem on Mull is road between Salen and Tobermory.
Most of this is single track which is fine for the rest of the island with very low amounts of traffic.
I prefer single track roads with plenty of passing places to narrow two way roads such as the Loch Lomond road north of Tarbert. I have driven that road plenty of times and have had to stop on two occasions on bends to pass HGV vehicles.

Also last time I was on the island there were a few Motorhomes in Tobermory, with the ledaig carpark having have a dozen or so parked there. But the big problem is the lack of chemical waste points. I have heard that plans are afoot to improve this situation. Mull is a beautiful island let’s keep it that way.

We are planning a week on Tiree this summer, and have booked a pitch on a Croft on the island.

The road surface to Fionnphort i find is truly awful,coupled with quite heavy traffic considering,especially in the summer when there are coaches racing backwards and forwards to Iona.Another gripe is the lack of places to pull off the road and take a photo or admire the view with the result that people use the passing places which in turn pees off the locals(rightly so) but these people are on holiday and would like a photo momento of a place they may never see again.They could and should be doing so much more.

The lack of cwp's is as you say pretty poor.On Shetland all the harbours are motorhome friendly with hook ups and emptying points and you can use their showers.Great set up over there.

The Lomond to Tarbet section is awful,nearly lost the back of a caravan to a logging truck ,the drivers of which take no prisoners
 
Have a look at this Jeff


MSP calls for greater urgency over introduction of road equivalent tariff on Orkney ferries
by Chris MacLennan
October 15, 2018, 5:15 am
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Orkney’s MSP, Liam McArthur, has voiced concerns at the lack of urgency the Scottish Government has shown in introducing a Road Equivalent Tariff (RET) on Orkney ferry routes.

The initiative, which was rolled out to services in the Hebrides a decade ago, was due to be delivered to the northern isle routes by the end of June.

Fresh delays have been encountered as a complaint has been made to the European Commission in regards to the Scottish Government’s plans to reduce ferry fares to Orkney.

In a written letter to the Orkney MSP, minister for Energy, Connectivity and the Islands, Paul Wheelhouse informed Mr McArthur that the Scottish Government remains committed to introducing RET to Orkney and Shetland, despite only being able to reduce fares for passengers travelling to and from Shetland by 20%.

Mr McArthur said: “The ongoing delay in introducing RET on Northern Isles ferry routes means that those using these lifeline services are being forced to continue paying over the odds.

“In light of that fact, people in Orkney and Shetland have every right to expect the Scottish Government to be straining every sinew to find a resolution to the impasse with Pentland Ferries.

“The Minister’s latest response to the representations that Tavish Scott and I have been making on this issue, however, displays a worrying lack of urgency.

“Almost four months on from the planned introduction of RET on Orkney and Shetland routes, the government still appears to be dithering over ‘options available’.

“Orkney’s exclusion from the government’s cheaper ferry fares scheme has gone on for a decade and more.

“It is long past time for a greater sense of urgency.”


It must surely come and rightly so for the residents at the very least,just praying a truly great place doesnt get screwed.
 

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