Our contribution to the uk economy

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Just read this months C&MH magazine.
They had a survey carried out by an independent company called frontline consultants.

The total benefit to the uk economy given by both caravan and Motorhome users is £9.3 billion.
And we keep 171,000 people in full time employment.
 
France, Germany, Spain and Portugal, realise this.
That explains why aires and their like, are popping up in increasing numbers.
Too many vested interests, in The UK.
 
Maybe we should put it to an "Indicative Vote"

Pauljenny said:
France, Germany, Spain and Portugal, realise this.
That explains why aires and their like, are popping up in increasing numbers.
Too many vested interests, in The UK.
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In the House of Loonies..sorry Commons !

But seriously space and vandalism are also significant issues in UK

But it will all get better soon ?????
 
We can only hope that things will change eventually.
The survey being carried out by the Loch Lomond Park body May be a sign of things to come.
Also the Irish both north and the republic are starting to provide better facilities.
 
jagmanx said:
2x Road Tax
2x Insurance
2x MOT Servicing etc

Probably not..Just camp-sites and the like
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As far as I can see it includes everything.
But I would suspect that most of this may come from caravans.
But Motorhomes do provide income from things that caravans don’t.
 
This figure is for visitor expenditure, ie cost of pitches, and what we spend whilst on sites in the local communities. So as far as I can see it does not include vat when purchasing vehicles, insurance, servicing etc. This would indicate that we actually contribute more than this figure.
 
Here’s the article
 

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Us miserable wild campers go out of our way to contribute as little as possible as we don’t like staying on camping stalags. 😂
 
I'm not sure how much wildcampers contribute to the economy. On the one hand people say they spend £100+ a day in the places they used to visit before they were closed to us and there are those who boast of taking everything from home and complain about a couple of quid for parking and expecting a fully serviced pitch for that. On balance we probably don't contribute a great deal. This week we are enjoying the luxury of a club site at £110 for the week and visited a National Trust house today at zero cost (members of NTfS) and £6 odd for coffee and cake. We haven't done a lot for the economy, and tomorrow we are visiting the Back to Backs in Birmingham, so a fiver on parking and maybe a drink in Wetherspoons. Another cheap day.
 
Our biggest spend is fuel. Do a shop before we leave and don’t eat out or drink in pubs so and never go to sites. Not cause we’re tight it’s just what we do and suspect a lot on here do similar?
 
I don't imagine we contribute much more to the economy than if we had just stayed home,but I do think we distribute our contribution to places away from main centres,which could potentially be of more value. Just the simple act of buying milk and bread from a rural shop could just be the straw that doesn't break the camels back,and ultimately could give the incentive for struggling villages to bring in much needed money by doing as the Europeans do,build Aires. It doesn't require that motorhomers spend large amounts,just little and often,with passing trade.
 
Are we really any different to day trippers that arrive by other forms of transport?

OK, so food-wise we may spend less in local eateries, mostly eating & drinking in our own vans when parked up and not wandering about, but to be honest I don't even know if that's 100% true?

The WC jollies I've been on in the past money has definitely been spent by meet attendees in the local pubs, cafes, restaurants, shops and tourist attractions.

Stating that wild campers as a 'breed' don't contribute to the local economy is not really accurate, is it, as we are quite diverse? :)
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Are we really any different to day trippers that arrive by other forms of transport?

OK, so food-wise we may spend less in local eateries, mostly eating & drinking in our own vans when parked up and not wandering about, but to be honest I don't even know if that's 100% true?

The WC jollies I've been on in the past money has definitely been spent by meet attendees in the local pubs, cafes, restaurants, shops and tourist attractions.

Stating that wild campers as a 'breed' don't contribute to the local economy is not really accurate, is it, as we are quite diverse? :)
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Good post Marie.

I would just like to add that much of what we contribute is not direct, but indirect through taxes we pay when buying our vans, fuel tax, insurance, road tax etc. Council tax only makes up around 20% of the needs for any council. 80% of what they get come in the form of block grants from their national governments. This money has in part came from us. The average price of a Motorhome is around £50,000, this includes around £9000 in vat.

The figures produced by the company employed by the c&mc don’t include any of these taxes, if they did the figure of £9.3 billion would be considerably higher. Also as you rightly state we are a diverse bunch. Speaking personally I occasionally enjoy using sites, spending money for their provision, whilst others seem to regard that as some kind of stupidity. But then that’s what makes us what we are in our diversity.

Bottom line other countries approach us from a different viewpoint, it’s time that our politicians and local councils supported by central government did likewise.
 
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jagmanx said:
In the House of Loonies..sorry Commons !

But seriously space and vandalism are also significant issues in UK

But it will all get better soon ?????
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are we getting loonie, take a good look at them, pockets full, dont give a dam, not to mention ,clouse vunder lick,? ok,pj
 
I personally think the argument is flawed arguing the amount of VAT paid, the same is true of cars pro rata will pay a lot more, Cars as a rule have no onboard cooking facilities therefore I am making the assumption more likely to spend on local food and drink hostelries they also generally are not self contained for overnight occupation

Motorhomes are treated as the poor relative in a lot of areas but arguing the tax paid seems an oblique argument. Until the entrenched views of local authorities change don't think much else will

Channa
 
channa said:
I personally think the argument is flawed arguing the amount of VAT paid, the same is true of cars pro rata will pay a lot more, Cars as a rule have no onboard cooking facilities therefore I am making the assumption more likely to spend on local food and drink hostelries they also generally are not self contained for overnight occupation

Motorhomes are treated as the poor relative in a lot of areas but arguing the tax paid seems an oblique argument. Until the entrenched views of local authorities change don't think much else will

Channa
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Fair point channa.
But parking provisions are made for cars, sometimes at a cost.
Cars are able to park in thousands of car parks that we are not allowed to at any cost.
Also more vat is paid on Motorhomes than cars.
The average price of a new car is less than half that of a Motorhome.
Also most Motorhome owners are car owners paying road tax and insurance twice,
Thus contributing far more to government coffers than car drivers.
 
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