Disgusting HGV drivers

[antiquesam]

There was a suggestion that HGV traction units should have basic toilet facilities incorporated.

Seems reasonable if they can equip them with televisions.

I do think that it would be possible to require HGVs to carry a portaloo, although emptying it might have problems. However it would be unreasonable for companies like Tesco to have to do so when they are delivering at stores with toilet facilities. So defining which have to carry them is difficult

The definition of 'Motor Caravan' has no such requirement. I do not know when those regs were drafted, but maybe it was in the age of VW Kampers. What did those surfer dudes do then, and now?

Geoff

I'm not sure where this toilet would be. A TV can be fixed up on a bulkhead, but there is very limited floor space and a long way down to the ground to get it out.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

There was a suggestion that HGV traction units should have basic toilet facilities incorporated.

Seems reasonable if they can equip them with televisions.

I do think that it would be possible to require HGVs to carry a portaloo, although emptying it might have problems. However it would be unreasonable for companies like Tesco to have to do so when they are delivering at stores with toilet facilities. So defining which have to carry them is difficult

The definition of 'Motor Caravan' has no such requirement. I do not know when those regs were drafted, but maybe it was in the age of VW Kampers. What did those surfer dudes do then, and now?

Geoff

Surfers aren't limited by tachographs in their vehicles or doing a job of work and can stop when and where they like, including places with toilet facilities.
When surfing I guess they just pee in the sea :scared: :lol-053:

So they're just like the rest of us, whether we be in car or camper. Unless you're stuck on the M14 or the M25 of course!

 

[harrow]

I think one of the problem is that when you do find a public toilet it is usually in awful condition and is usually a cause of embarrassment to this country.

The only place I have found good public toilets, which also included vases with cut flowers was at Sandringham, I can't think why ?

 

[Deleted member 74361]

I'm not sure where this toilet would be. A TV can be fixed up on a bulkhead, but there is very limited floor space and a long way down to the ground to get it out.

Portaloo mounted on the traction unit behind the cab and moved to the cab, or trailer, for use?

 

[antiquesam]

Portaloo mounted on the traction unit behind the cab and moved to the cab, or trailer, for use?

But you are expecting someone to lift a bucket full of excrement above their head to get it into and out of the cab. I suspect that would upset H&S.
I'm not sure if you've ever looked into a lorry cab but there is very little floor space to use this portaloo. It would be similar to trying to squat in your cars foot well

 

[caledonia]

There was a suggestion that HGV traction units should have basic toilet facilities incorporated.

Seems reasonable if they can equip them with televisions.

I do think that it would be possible to require HGVs to carry a portaloo, although emptying it might have problems. However it would be unreasonable for companies like Tesco to have to do so when they are delivering at stores with toilet facilities. So defining which have to carry them is difficult

The definition of 'Motor Caravan' has no such requirement. I do not know when those regs were drafted, but maybe it was in the age of VW Kampers. What did those surfer dudes do then, and now?

Geoff

Most VW campers have portaloos. Just cause we’re small doesn’t me we don’t have facilities.

 

[Fazerloz]

But you are expecting someone to lift a bucket full of excrement above their head to get it into and out of the cab. I suspect that would upset H&S.
I'm not sure if you've ever looked into a lorry cab but there is very little floor space to use this portaloo. It would be similar to trying to squat in your cars foot well[/QUOTE

 

[Fazerloz]

But you are expecting someone to lift a bucket full of excrement above their head to get it into and out of the cab. I suspect that would upset H&S.
I'm not sure if you've ever looked into a lorry cab but there is very little floor space to use this portaloo. It would be similar to trying to squat in your cars foot well[/QUOTE

The seat part of the toilet could be incorporated in the passengers seat and the waste holding tank could be low down and accessible from the floor outside. If truckers demanded toilets in trucks and refused to put up with this situation things would change very rapidly. They just need to get their act together.

 

[trevskoda]

There was a suggestion that HGV traction units should have basic toilet facilities incorporated.

Seems reasonable if they can equip them with televisions.

I do think that it would be possible to require HGVs to carry a portaloo, although emptying it might have problems. However it would be unreasonable for companies like Tesco to have to do so when they are delivering at stores with toilet facilities. So defining which have to carry them is difficult

The definition of 'Motor Caravan' has no such requirement. I do not know when those regs were drafted, but maybe it was in the age of VW Kampers. What did those surfer dudes do then, and now?

Geoff

They leave dudes doo in the sand dunes.:scared::lol-049::lol-049::lol-049:

 

[Asterix]

The seat part of the toilet could be incorporated in the passengers seat and the waste holding tank could be low down and accessible from the floor outside. If truckers demanded toilets in trucks and refused to put up with this situation things would change very rapidly. They just need to get their act together.

Eat sleep drive poop,all in an undivided cab,that sounds like a health and safety disaster,then it also needs to be considered that there may be multiple drivers using the truck....would you want to get in knowing the previous driver has been doing all the afformentioned,and possibly having a toss off as well?

 

[Deleted member 5816]

Nothing new or different there then.

Alf. :shag:

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[antiquesam]

Eat sleep drive poop,all in an undivided cab,that sounds like a health and safety disaster,then it also needs to be considered that there may be multiple drivers using the truck....would you want to get in knowing the previous driver has been doing all the afformentioned,and possibly having a toss off as well?

I mentioned in an earlier post that some treat drivers like animals, I'm beginning to think that some on this forum feel they should be kept in kennels where everything should be confined to the roughly 8 sq.m of the cab where they are confined for 11 hours on a break. Nice people.

 

[n brown]

perhaps i've been around too many kids , but poo and wee don't bother me as much as it seems to bother some . we all have to do both regularly after all. anywhere that has room for vehicles to pull up and a bit of cover is bound to be used by people who have to go .be nice if they used a shovel, but then we'll never know if they did, so maybe it's car drivers caught short that did the biz.
anyway , i would be surprised to fid a £$%^-free layby and would only use one if i had to ,and my sympathies are with the lonely squatters who can't find anywhere more conducive to the job[by ] in hand

 

[CarlandHels]

Eat sleep drive poop,all in an undivided cab,that sounds like a health and safety disaster,then it also needs to be considered that there may be multiple drivers using the truck....would you want to get in knowing the previous driver has been doing all the afformentioned,and possibly having a toss off as well?

The truth is.. Most truck drivers do this anyway.....

 

[Kontiki]

As someone said driving hours for HGV drivers can end up deciding where they have to park up & our laybys/parking areas are lacking any facilities. Unlike on the continent they provide quite a lot of areas where all drivers can take a break many have basic toilet facilities. Some of these do get in state where you would have to be desperate to use.

 

[Herbenny]

The overnight money is pittance and doesn't even come near to covering the cost of services and a decent hot meal. If people knew what most lorry drivers spend in a week to cover their expenses then 'yes' we do we have to pocket every penny we get back in overnight money.
Lorry drivers arnt paid that well and it's a hard job sacrificing a lot of family life, and many marriages fail because of the unsociable hours long stints away.

As in all walks of life there's good and bad

 

[caledonia]

The overnight money is pittance and doesn't even come near to covering the cost of services and a decent hot meal. If people knew what most lorry drivers spend in a week to cover their expenses then 'yes' we do we have to pocket every penny we get back in overnight money.
Lorry drivers arnt paid that well and it's a hard job sacrificing a lot of family life, and many marriages fail because of the unsociable hours long stints away.

As in all walks of life there's good and bad

My dad was a long distance lorry driver till he retired at 67 and I fixed trucks for 35 years. As you say these guys don’t get the rewards they deserve.

 

[Channa]

perhaps i've been around too many kids , but poo and wee don't bother me as much as it seems to bother some . we all have to do both regularly after all. anywhere that has room for vehicles to pull up and a bit of cover is bound to be used by people who have to go .be nice if they used a shovel, but then we'll never know if they did, so maybe it's car drivers caught short that did the biz.
anyway , i would be surprised to fid a £$%^-free layby and would only use one if i had to ,and my sympathies are with the lonely squatters who can't find anywhere more conducive to the job[by ] in hand

Not for the first time on these hallowed pages Nigel is it apparent the British have an obsession with toilets and it must be prim and proper

I was once standing at the urinals in abroad when a coach load of Spanish students rocked up from Madrid university ..Just shaking the drops off and about 8 women walked in brash as you like, It transpired not enough stalls in the ladies so the overspill ( no pun intended) Used the gents too, Funny thing about it is no one battered an eyelid

The afternoon got better they organised theirmeal and before long the café was full of people dancing some on the tables and guitars strumming

Brilliant time you couldn't book in a travel agents if you tried

Channa

 

[wildebus]

Not for the first time on these hallowed pages Nigel is it apparent the British have an obsession with toilets and it must be prim and proper

I was once standing at the urinals in abroad when a coach load of Spanish students rocked up from Madrid university ..Just shaking the drops off and about 8 women walked in brash as you like, It transpired not enough stalls in the ladies so the overspill ( no pun intended) Used the gents too, Funny thing about it is no one battered an eyelid

The afternoon got better they organised theirmeal and before long the café was full of people dancing some on the tables and guitars strumming

Brilliant time you couldn't book in a travel agents if you tried

Channa

That reminds me of the 31st of December 1999 (well, actually 1/1/2000 I guess).
My wife and I and a friend of hers went up to London for the Millenium Celebrations by the river. About 2AM we went to Waterloo to get a tube train and all needed the loo. Gents was all in and out as usual; Ladies had a queue around 1/2 mile long. My wife and her friend looked at the two sets of toilets, decided 'sod it' and just went to the gents instead.
I remember them coming out singing "We've got emp-ty blad-ders!"

(I think a few women queuing for 'their' toilets then thought 'sod it' as well and followed their example )

 

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