Cost of second hand vans

[trevskoda]

Sir
On behalf of my 24 year old Ford Transit van I strongly object to your ageist comments. She hasn't yet had the ignominy of welding to her underside, but she was apparently expensively undersealed when new.
Regards
Pedantic old git from Portsmouth

No requirement to call me Sir as that old fart in the range rover also forgot to tell his wife
about famous old me and the tapping of the sword on ones shoulder,but the police were round here today and said im for the chop,maybe i will be a Sir yet.

 

[shaunr68]

The Sevel in Italy built vans (Citroen Relay, Peugeot Boxer, Fiat Ducato) started to have fully galvanised bodies in 2007 and the Renault Master (etc.) went fully galvanised from 2004 onwards.

This is an interesting post. I have been considering doing another self-build in the future. It would have to be something a decent size, I like the XLWB Ducato/Relay/Boxer as you point out they are galvanised and I've seen how the tin worm gets to Sprinters especially, though to be fair generally builders' vans that haven't been looked after. The one that really fits the bill would be the XLWB Iveco Daily (L4H3) with the internal load length of 4.7m. Does anyone know whether the newer Ivecos, 2012ish onwards, are now galvanised? The older ones seemed to rust like hell.

 

[Millie Master]

Does anyone know whether the newer Ivecos, 2012ish onwards, are now galvanised? The older ones seemed to rust like hell.

The latest Iveco's are fully galvanised but I don't know when they started to be fully treated although I am fairly certain that they weren't in 2012, the best way to answer this is to make contact with an IVECO dealer who might know the answer, however having just come off the IVECO woeful website they don't mention anything about such a vitally important matter !!

 

[shaunr68]

Do these still have the really terrible steering lock? I remember driving one many years ago and was astonished how little you could turn the front wheels.

No idea to be honest, never driven one yet, apparently they are described as a bit agricultural to drive but the huge interior load space appeals to me for a conversion.

The latest Iveco's are fully galvanised but I don't know when they started to be fully treated although I am fairly certain that they weren't in 2012, the best way to answer this is to make contact with an IVECO dealer who might know the answer, however having just come off the IVECO woeful website they don't mention anything about such a vitally important matter !!

Thanks, my budget might stretch to a 2014-15, but nothing newer. The XLWB variants are expensive to start with, they are massive beasties though:

Iveco Daily 35S13 4100 H2 XLWB Van 2.3ltr 126 BHP Euro 5 | eBay

I'd certainly not buy a non-galvanised Iveco seeing as how the older ones turn into such rust buckets. I'll do some more digging. Cheers.

 

[mark61]

Worth looking into weights with those XLWB Daily's at 3500GVW. Don't know for sure but their payload can't be much over 1100KG, easy to take a huge chunk out of that with just conversion materials, water tanks etc.

 

[shaunr68]

Worth looking into weights with those XLWB Daily's at 3500GVW. Don't know for sure but their payload can't be much over 1100KG, easy to take a huge chunk out of that with just conversion materials, water tanks etc.

Definitely, I'd be looking at a 4 ton+. The one I linked above has a GVW of 7000KG! I bet there would be a decent payload on that after a conversion. Plenty enough for a porcelain bog and a granite worktop

 

[mark61]

GTW 7000KG, not GVW says in details. But yes the 7 tonne version will have a good payload.

3.5T have single rear wheels, above twin.

Clues in the model number too. 35 will be 3500GVW, 70 7000GVW etc

 

[Millie Master]

Worth looking into weights with those XLWB Daily's at 3500GVW. Don't know for sure but their payload can't be much over 1100KG, easy to take a huge chunk out of that with just conversion materials, water tanks etc.

With regards to the weight of these iconic vans, there was someone on the DIY Motorhome forum who had one of these and because of his design/layout which had a fixed bed across the rear of the van as well as a way of reducing the weight he had removed the rear doors and replaced them with a single sheet of metal, it saved a very significant of weight.

They are brilliant vans if, dare I say it, a bit ugly and perfect for those who do long touring holidays or indeed full timing.

 

[shaunr68]

GTW 7000KG, not GVW says in details. But yes the 7 tonne version will have a good payload.

3.5T have single rear wheels, above twin.

Clues in the model number too. 35 will be 3500GVW, 70 7000GVW etc

Ah thanks, I did notice the 35 in the model number and wondered whether the GVW as stated was correct, thanks for the clarification.

 

[delicagirl]

I've just checked the cost of a new import Delica like mine and it costs 50% more than i paid for mine 4 years ago - that just about covers the money i have already spent on it !!!! but good to know that i could get my money back should i sell it.... not thinking of doing that yet though