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Fazerloz

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And I will also post as I fancy, within the terms of the forum. I also asked not to lecture me. This is my opinion on my life, not your life. You can live your life however you see fit, that's the beauty of living in a democracy. Suppose you would be giving exactly the same advice about being selfish to my m-i-l, who might not live to see the end of this year, let alone the conquering of a virus? Guess she must also be extremely selfish for wanting to leave the house for a short while, or to see her family. Well good luck on that one! The bottom line is that if there is no 'vaccine' found for covid-19, which is highly likely, then how long is anyone in the high risk group expected to stay living in lockdown? Doesn't bear thinking about, which is basically the gist of my post. If others on here (who are healthy!) are going stir crazy and kicking up because they can't go running off to the beaches in their camper vans while others who are (healthy) and 'furloughed' can, then I...
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Your friends are being delayed because there is a backlog causing delays to outpatients. Even urgent cases cannot be seen in the 2 week period after referral. You are not the only one affected Marie. Did I say any personal medical treatments were being affected? I did not, so I don't quite know what you're on about there, and I find it strange that you feel the need to point out that "I'm not the only one affected". Do you perhaps think I've been living on Mars the last few months? :unsure: :) As it happens my own cancer treatment is hunky dory and ongoing, so I'm not affected on that front in the slightest. The reason I have absolutely no complaints about it is because I'm very lucky . I have a brilliant oncologist who is on the ball, unlike several other people I know personally who have been left in a different boat altogether - and for absolutely no good reason, as it happens. As for my other friends waiting to be seen by specialists for other medical reasons, that's a...
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I can assure you non of your post upset me in any way. It just struck me as selfish and still does. Pleased to hear you're not upset. No explanation as to why you think it is selfish, then? It might be interesting to hear your reasoning, particularly as I'm being accused of something that my family and friends would strongly disagree with you about. After all, you brought up the 'family and friends' bit, not me.
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As I posted on another thread, hospital rang me up last Friday, as soon as they have worked out how to safely operate I'm being called in. This means I've gone from social distancing to self isolation. Better safe than sorry, you need to take all the precautions you can. Hope you hear from the hospital soon and good luck! (y) xx
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Better safe than sorry, you need to take all the precautions you can. Hope you hear from the hospital soon and good luck! (y) xx In my discussions with the hospital, it's still not certain if I've had CV-19 or not, unless an antibody test becomes available before admission I'll never know unless I do get a dose.
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In my discussions with the hospital, it's still not certain if I've had CV-19 or not, unless an antibody test becomes available before admission I'll never know unless I do get a dose. Don't know when the Roche antibody tests will be available, and they will be for front-line staff in the first instance, or so we're told. I would imagine that they won't operate until they've done all the appropriate testing on you as well, and would assume that should include an antibody test if we have them in the country by then. Try not to worry too much. I am back in hospital next week for one of my routine treatments, granted it's not an operation, but it feels a damn sight safer than I would going into a supermarket, that's for sure! :)
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Pleased to hear you're not upset. No explanation as to why you think it is selfish, then? It might be interesting to hear your reasoning, particularly as I'm being accused of something that my family and friends would strongly disagree with you about. After all, you brought up the 'family and friends' bit, not me. "I am old enough to make my own decisions, and as I'm the one who would die I think I have the right to make those decisions for myself. After all, they have sufficient hospital facilities to cope with covid now, and I would be in the 'do not resuscitate or ventilate' group anyway, so all the nursing staff would have to do would be keep me comfortable until I'd passed." Whilst it might all well be true. IF you can't see any selfishness in that statement. So be it.
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"I am old enough to make my own decisions, and as I'm the one who would die I think I have the right to make those decisions for myself. After all, they have sufficient hospital facilities to cope with covid now, and I would be in the 'do not resuscitate or ventilate' group anyway, so all the nursing staff would have to do would be keep me comfortable until I'd passed." Whilst it might all well be true. IF you can't see any selfishness in that statement. So be it. OK, leave me at home then. Nobody wants to be a burden on anybody, and that includes me. Wouldn't particularly want to die in hospital either, who does?! I'm sure all the people who've had covid and been hospitalised didn't want to catch the virus, didn't want to end up in hospital and definitely didn't want to die. But here's the one thing none of us can escape: whatever 'precautions' you think you might be taking, you can't legislate against a virus. It's a simple as that. This excessive fear is killing people...
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Don’t see anything selfish about that at all. Expecting a family member or friend to remain in lockdown against their will, is not loving or respecting them in the slightest. It entirely revolves around the selfish act of someone not being able to say good bye. I want my loved ones to live their lives as they see fit. If that means an earlier death I shall of course morn their death while celebrate they lived the life they choose. If ever there was a selfish post, it's certainly not Maries. I guess you don't see it either then.
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Did I say any personal medical treatments were being affected? I did not, so I don't quite know what you're on about there, and I find it strange that you feel the need to point out that "I'm not the only one affected". Do you perhaps think I've been living on Mars the last few months? :unsure: :) As it happens my own cancer treatment is hunky dory and ongoing, so I'm not affected on that front in the slightest. The reason I have absolutely no complaints about it is because I'm very lucky . I have a brilliant oncologist who is on the ball, unlike several other people I know personally who have been left in a different boat altogether - and for absolutely no good reason, as it happens. As for my other friends waiting to be seen by specialists for other medical reasons, that's a different story. Obviously there will be a backlog :rolleyes: and mine is merely an expression of frustration on their behalf when I hear how worried and depressed they are. Lecture me about logistics...
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on the "camping" side of this thread, this might be interesting? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52720169 I had an Email from the Environment Agency earlier today saying that short boat trips are now allowed on the river but you must return to the marina the same day and no overnighting. It's a start though.
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Like most things related to covid, there are at least two arguments and nothing is black and white. We are "protecting" quite a few individuals who would rather have family contact with a little risk, than no contact and miserable. Some, with terminal prognosis, can't see the point of "keeping safe" by isolating, if it makes them so distanced from their loved ones. That doesn't mean they will be running amok in the streets spreading infection, but just that they can see family in the same room, have a hug and even a cuddle (maybe followed by a wash). And maybe staying overnight in the middle of nowhere in a self contained motorhome without having any contact with others is not such a terrible thing to hanker after. We demonstrated today that others were put at risk and we were at home ( Posted on mh!) Don't know where this leaves us, but sooner or later we have to take responsibility for our own actions and I genuinely cannot see how some confer it as selfish to go out taking...
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Like most things related to covid, there are at least two arguments and nothing is black and white. We are "protecting" quite a few individuals who would rather have family contact with a little risk, than no contact and miserable. Some, with terminal prognosis, can't see the point of "keeping safe" by isolating, if it makes them so distanced from their loved ones. That doesn't mean they will be running amok in the streets spreading infection, but just that they can see family in the same room, have a hug and even a cuddle (maybe followed by a wash). And maybe staying overnight in the middle of nowhere in a self contained motorhome without having any contact with others is not such a terrible thing to hanker after. We demonstrated today that others were put at risk and we were at home ( Posted on mh!) Don't know where this leaves us, but sooner or later we have to take responsibility for our own actions and I genuinely cannot see how some confer it as selfish to go out taking...
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Yes, this Cummings thing is shaping up to become one of the the main news items this bank holiday weekend. What a cheek! If I'd known he was up here I'd have gone and knocked on his door and given him a piece of my mind, maybe even smacked his bum. 😁 Think I might become a NIMBY hehe :oops::devilish:😂😂😂 As an aside, just heard on the news 2 mins ago that Dorset police are saying it's OK to go there in your camper van, even stating up front that they acknowledge that for some people it is their main vehicle, but under no circumstances must you stay overnight or you will be fined and sent home.
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Yes, this Cummings thing is shaping up to become one of the the main news items this bank holiday weekend. What a cheek! If I'd known he was up here I'd have gone and knocked on his door and given him a piece of my mind, maybe even smacked his bum. 😁 Think I might become a NIMBY hehe :oops::devilish:😂😂😂 As an aside, just heard on the news 2 mins ago that Dorset police are saying it's OK to go there in your camper van, even stating up front that they acknowledge that for some people it is their main vehicle, but under no circumstances must you stay overnight or you will be fined and sent home. In the interest of fairness does the said punishment apply to all intruders sneaking into Durham? Please answer soonest, the engine is running. :love:
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