30 mbar dual purpose regulators

Channa

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I came across a Hymer a couple of weeks ago that had a 30 mbar regulator fitted, the idea being it can run either butane or propane.

Have any of you got one of these and how does it perform in relation to a dedicated Butane / Propane regulator ?

Have you noticed any difference in the performance of your appliances ?

Channa
 
My MH has a 30 bar regulator, one to each bottle. I have used Butane and Propane gases and I have no problems. Whether there is a difference, I am not aware. I just know It works fine on both of them.
 
Hi Channa,

My German van was originally kitted out with appliances running at 50 mbar (there is a sticker in the gas locker). I use an Alugas refillable (30 mbar) and an Energas exchange bottle (37 mbar). They are both teed into the same feed. I see no difference when using one or the other.
 
Like Maingate, my German Hymer was fitted with a 50 mbar regulator, however when going through its two yearly gas check it was changed to a 30 mbar regulator by the tester, who confirmed i could now use both butane or propane Gas.I have not noticed no difference in performance immaterial of what gas I use.

Sailorman.
 
I think you would only notice a difference if you do any winter camping.

Butane freezes at around 4 degrees C, so will be of less use in very cold conditions. The french apparently put some butane in LPG (GPL) which in theory could make a difference too but I've never noticed anything.
 
Winter !!! What's that. Never seen/been in a winter in yonks. Anything under 25 degrees is not my scene. ☺☺☺
 
David & Ann said:
Winter !!! What's that. Never seen/been in a winter in yonks. Anything under 25 degrees is not my scene. ☺☺☺
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Well some of us like going skiing (like on the mountains in your avatar photo) but don't forget that winter on your driveway can still get very cold!
 
fairytooth said:
Well some of us like going skiing (like on the mountains in your avatar photo) but don't forget that winter on your driveway can still get very cold!
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I am never, ever on my driveway in winter. 13th Dez: until the 3rd April 2012, I will be in Oz. ☺ ☺ The Avatar photo was taken in early June 2010 on my way to Italy and Spain. It was in the Swiss Alps.
 
David & Ann said:
I am never, ever on my driveway in winter. 13th Dez: until the 3rd April 2012, I will be in Oz. ☺ ☺ The Avatar photo was taken in early June 2010 on my way to Italy and Spain. It was in the Swiss Alps.
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How lovely for you. But my original post was in reply to the OP who was Channa who might experience temperatures below 4 degrees, of course. The idea was to assist everyone, not just you.

PS And does the motorhome go to Oz with you????
 
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fairytooth said:
How lovely for you. But my original post was in reply to the OP who was Channa who might experience temperatures below 4 degrees, of course. The idea was to assist everyone, not just you.
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My apoligies Fairytooth. I thought the theme changed slightly as the posts went along. perhaps I got the bull by the tail. Sorry once again.
 
I've got an under-slung gas tank which uses auto-gas which I understand to be a mixture of the 2 gases depending on the time of year, its a m bar regulator & I can't say I've ever noticed any difference.
 
13th Dez: until the 3rd April 2012, I will be in Oz.
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Remember that only "Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun" - especially in Australia. While you are there escaping the cold, I'll be elsewhere escaping the heat. To each his own.
 
Do you know what the logic was making you change the 37 mbar reg to a 30 mbar and who told you this was a necessary requirement ?
I fully appreciate your conversion was a bulk mounted regulator with a pigtail that makes a lot of sense.

I am interested as to why you were told that the 30 mb was a necessity when in Bricoman, Castorama they are still selling dedicated regulators at 28 mbar and 37 mbar for butane and propane respectively.

This relates partly to my original question I work with leisure accomodation vehicles in France, and a colleague and I have been charged with evaluating 30 mbar regulators against traditional 28 mbar and 37 mbar alternatives ( the company can save money, but dont want naturally to drop a clanger)The company has 8500 mobiles in total. plus 1500 tents. I guess they are working on the basis one product line is easier than two or three
Are 30 mbar regs sufficient for the job in Eastern France for example Easter time when still a bit chilly.I.E Annecy , Lac du Chalain ? better still Germany or Duinrell in Holland.

Incidentally you are quite right in terms of do not use beyond dates on pigtails. However you do have to be careful some of the hoses state their date of manufacture that is not to be confused by a sell by date

Channa
 
one or the other

Hi I've an adapter which allows me to use butane or propane thru a propane regulator I've never had any problems or noticed a difference in at least 20yrs
 
Bad explanation on my part, You are right High pressure pigtails have an expiry date beyond which they should not be used.
Lower presuure hoses, unless unique to ourselves ( i;e after the regulator) I have seen with no expiry date just a date of manufacture.

Naturally we inspect the condition of all hoses yearly and in the case of LP hoses would routinely change them after 5 years.

Channa
 
hi, i thought the high pressure hoses before the reg had a manufacturers date on as well. all the orange lengths i have do.
they used to not recommend worm /jubilee type clips ,only the o clips with the little squeezable ears on . .a few years ago it suddenly became ok to use worm clips . makes you wonder who thinks all this up.
by the way i saw somewhere folk having difficulty getting long lengths of hose .BES . sell either 50mtr coils or 3mtr lengths. they also sell the o clips and the tool for fitting and removing them. they have just released a new catalogue as well.
cheers alan.
 
hi, but corgi or gas safe have no qualification to work on your m,home. there details plainly say they cant.personaly neve had a problem with the hoses .black low pressure ,orange high pressure. in spain buy it in the super market.
bit like france get your shot gun cartridges just down from the sweets. hee hee.
we used to get our o clips from worth . vw used lots of them.
mind i have a kit to make the citroen type band clips and the pliers to put them on.
we did used to rechassis 2cv,s and put galvanised chassis under them made in uk . in frome. best chassis for a 2cv.iquite like 2cv,s had chance of some mehari`s once when in brittany ,wish i had bought them as time went on. also the h series vans .lovelly.
but anyway . any reg any gas works for me.
 
hi, i now use BES theyseem to carry mos of what you need for lpg and lots plumbing work. getting a bit hard to get 8mm to 5mm reducers for the gas lights but found a company that does them. think they were glad i found them not alot of call for 5mm copper pipe fitting .same as brakes but they use different fittings. amazing how many just have the hose pushed on to regukators with no clips at all.
you do need the proper tool for the o clips . we all have managed with out but they are worth it. shame there isnt a proper standard pressure or working pressure. bit like the bottles them selves . how complicated it is.
if anyone is worried then see a gas fitter. best to be safe than sorry . if you arent confident and a little bit knowledgeable dont play with it yourself. it isnt as confusing as it seems but best be safe.
cheers alan.
 
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