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witzend

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I'm still trying to understand this rule. Just say you have 5 days in France then come home that has started your 180 day period is there anything to stop you having the remaining 85 days of that 180 days followed immediately by the 90 days of your next 180
eg 5 Away, 90 Home, 85 Away, 90 Away
 

Canalsman

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This you cannot do.

The 180 day period rolls forward. It's a window on the calendar.

It's hard to explain but in the example you give the 5 days taken will disappear from the allowance on the sixth day, because the window has moved on.

If you had taken 90 days in one go, then those 90 days will disappear a day at a time after 90 days and will only disappear fully after 180 days has elapsed.
 

grath

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The best way to understand it, is to play with the calculator I have posted above.
You can enter several trips of various lengths
 

rugbyken

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as above it’s a rolling 180 easier to say you must have been out of the zone for 90 days in the last 180
 

witzend

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This you cannot do.

The 180 day period rolls forward. It's a window on the calendar.

It's hard to explain but in the example you give the 5 days taken will disappear from the allowance on the sixth day, because the window has moved on.

If you had taken 90 days in one go, then those 90 days will disappear a day at a time after 90 days and will only disappear fully after 180 days has elapsed.
Pity though isn't it
 

peter palance

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This you cannot do.

The 180 day period rolls forward. It's a window on the calendar.

It's hard to explain but in the example you give the 5 days taken will disappear from the allowance on the sixth day, because the window has moved on.

If you had taken 90 days in one go, then those 90 days will disappear a day at a time after 90 days and will only disappear fully after 180 days has elapsed.
what dose that mean in simple terms. ok pj. oh thank you
 

Canalsman

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There isn't a simple explanation unfortunately. I've done my best to explain the principle above.
 
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GMJ

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The way I explain it to myself is to think in round numbers of 30 days.

Month 1 - 30 days away
Month 2 - 30 days away
Month 3 - 30 days away
Month 4 - home - as I have now used my 90 days in 180 allowance
Month 5 - home
Month 6 - home
180 days is now complete
Month 7 - away because as each day of the month goes by, a day in Month 1 becomes a day over the 180 day rule. It is replaced by each day in Month 7
Month 8 - away because as each day of the month goes by, a day in Month 2 becomes a day over the 180 day rule. It is replaced by each day in Month 8
Month 9 - away because as each day of the month goes by, a day in Month 3 becomes a day over the 180 day rule. It is replaced by each day in Month 9
Month 10 - home
Month 11 - home
Month 12 - home
etc etc

Please bear in mind that not every month is 30 days so this will need to be accounted for.
 

GMJ

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For us and foreign travel it works like this. These are round months

Jan - away
Feb - away
Mar - home
Apr - Home
May - away
June- home
July - home
August - home
Sept - away (as Jan and Feb have dropped off now)
Oct - Home
Nov - Home
Dec - Home
Jan - away (as May has dropped off now)
Feb - away (as each day of Sept drops off we can replace it with a day away in Feb)
etc etc
 

REC

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I think playing with the calculators makes understanding it easier! :oops:
My brain exploded when I think about it too much, although I do understand the working out!
 

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been trying to get my irish passport for almost a year had all documents returned saying that office was closed due to covid not checked for couple of months but situation was the same then
 

Jmick

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As long as your wife travels with you she can ignore the calculator.
Unfortunately, any UK passport holder is bound by the 90 day rule - even if travelling with a spouse holding an Irish passport 🙁.
 

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been trying to get my irish passport for almost a year had all documents returned saying that office was closed due to covid not checked for couple of months but situation was the same then
Drinking Guinness does not entitle you to an Irish passport. I tried that.;)
 

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I think the thing to remember is it is a rolling 180 day window so it goes back in time by 180 days. As long as the number of days you are away in the previous 180 days do not add up to more than 90 then you can travel.
 

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Unfortunately, any UK passport holder is bound by the 90 day rule - even if travelling with a spouse holding an Irish passport 🙁.
That is not the advise the Irish government has given or the your Europe web site.
 
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