north berwick, the signs ;(
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Obanboy666
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I wouldn't stay anywhere there was a sign regardless if it stated a byelaw or TRO.
Pretty obvious you are not wellcome and to be honest i couldn't be arsed getting into a confrontation with anyone from the council etc.
I appreciate some members would stand their ground and fight the good fight for want of a better word but i feel its a lost cause and eventually we will have no where in or near towns etc where motorhomes can overnight regardless of what actions are taken.
Pretty obvious you are not wellcome and to be honest i couldn't be arsed getting into a confrontation with anyone from the council etc.
I appreciate some members would stand their ground and fight the good fight for want of a better word but i feel its a lost cause and eventually we will have no where in or near towns etc where motorhomes can overnight regardless of what actions are taken.
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Sad. That is/was a lovely spot. We've used it a few times, great for the beach, and a short walk into the town. It was well looked after by the campers. We, and others always picked up any litter and kept it tidy.
I'd bet it was the nearby campsite that has been protesting.
maxi77
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Just as likelyto be an annoyed local resident. NB has become quite upmarket these days and some of the vans I have seen there were certainly not improving the situation. Mind you there are also plenty of non campers use the area too and the local busybody will tend to pick on the most obvious culprit
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So a sign is put up, by whom, which has absolutely no authority and we cow tow to it? I think not
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It is not a question of kowtowing to anyone or anything. I value my motorhome and a sign telling me to bugger off usually has at least one angry resident behind it. An angry resident with a brick is something I can definitely do without.
There are plenty of places that are welcoming - I'd rather go there!
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I am afraid life is far to short to worry about something that is never going to happen. With your attitude you will miss a lot of what goes on in real life and would be better staying at home.
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The poster like lots of other members including my good self travel and visit places to enjoy our motorhoming not to potentially get into conflict / arguments with officials or an irate local regardless whether a sign is legal or not.
Its pretty obvious motorhomes are not wellcome hence the signs. Much easier to move on and prevent any grieve imho.
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Just as we were talking about the other day Terry, the old german merc at NB, with all the gear stacked around it like a knackers camp, but I agree with you, only the coppers would convince me to move if the sign was not official, and even they would have to give me a good reason as to why I needed to move. fair play to those who don't want conflict but I just love to see a jobs worth approaching my van :mad2:
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Yes, I miss so much. Last week I was driving over a spectacular Alpine Pass at 6,000 feet, then we drove the even more spectacular length of the Ardeche gorge and now we are in the Pyrenees, contemplating a drive over the Col du Tourmalet to eventually end up at the Cirque du Gavarnie tomorrow. Life must be so more exciting for those prepared to do interesting things!
PS My motorhome (and I am now on the third one) has never been damaged by irate locals but I know people who have had stuff thrown at them or had their vans spray-painted with "go away" slogans. Believe me, it DOES happen - but not to those of us who know that life is too short to argue with idiots and that there are so many interesting places to visit that are welcoming to us.
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Well I am glad you have a life. At the moment just north of Valencia and enjoying the sun. Are you not concerned you could fall off a cliff where you are?
The point I was trying to make is if it has been the council who erected the signs then why are we allowing them to spend our money on something that has no legality and is unenforceable. You will be aware Highland Region incurred an additional cost in removing similar type signs but if you are happy to see our money wasted then so be it. I am afraid I will not be told what to do in my life by something that has no standing and will leave that to those who cannot think for themselves.
The point I was trying to make is if it has been the council who erected the signs then why are we allowing them to spend our money on something that has no legality and is unenforceable. You will be aware Highland Region incurred an additional cost in removing similar type signs but if you are happy to see our money wasted then so be it. I am afraid I will not be told what to do in my life by something that has no standing and will leave that to those who cannot think for themselves.
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Yes, me too. There is a whole 'nother world out there with no height barriers, no parking restrictions, no ticket machines, no signs, no narrow lanes spiked with nasty hedges filled with stone walls, no parking police, cheap fuel and food, a billion stars at night, clean air, white sand beaches, spectacular views, and a million perfect overnighting spots to enjoy.
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If I do fall off a cliff it will be my fault. I prefer to be in control of my own fate and not have some scroat control it.
And, as I have pointed out many times before, deterrent signs are not illegal and therefore wasting nobody's money. If anyone tried to impose a penalty, then that would be illegal and you would be justified in complaining about councils wasting money. As it is, deterrent signs are seen as a cheap (and legal) way of preventing what the council see as a problem from becoming too large. You and I may not regard it as a problem but if anyone thinks these signs are illegal I would be interested to hear of any case in which a council (or anyone else) has been prosecuted for erecting them. It won't happen because they are not illegal. If you are prepared to ignore the signs then no-one can take legal action against you - but, as I said above, it only takes one idiot with a brick who thinks he has right on his side to cause a lot of havoc. If you are prepared to take that risk then fair enough - I prefer my risk-taking to be of a different sort.
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lol, funnily I did think about that on Saturday night..............on another note I was at Dunbar parked up at Belhaven bay and this scrote o a bog cleaner told me to move on as I was not allowed to park up lol, I politely told him to **** off, still waiting on the police that he was getting to move me on..........
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If I lived locally I'd make up a couple of extra signs with, no Rumanians, no tinkers, no tents, no disabled, etc,etc and add a few more minority groups to the post, then take a picture or two and send to some of the papers anonymously. I remember the days when people put signs up at their shops saying, no gypsy and other words I have no intension of repeating, and the groups excluded for B&B seemed endless. The press will want to know why the council wants to discriminate against any group and they will want proof. More than one way to skin a cat, sorry Sharon. :cheers:
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Have the local shopkeepers and pubs seen these signs, I tend to spend a fair amount in places I visit. I agree if not welcome move on but who is it that is not welcoming us?. I talk to people in towns that run businesses and most say please stay overnight hope to see you tomorrow :welcome:.